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Ddseddse said:
This diagram is a LITERAL a description of the one and ONLY thing a LLM (Large Language Model) is capable of doing.

To whit, produce a statistically probable amalgam of stuff that it was fed in it's training dataset.

If you are expecting an LLM to do something different, the problem is not with the LLM, it's with your lack of understanding of what an LLM is capable of doing.

EDIT: You can augment an LLM with different capabilities, for example giving it access to lookup functions it knows it can call... e.g. findScholarlyPublicationCitation()... or give it access to an MCP Server which may have more domain specific knowledge, but then we're back to square one, with tailoring individual solutions for every task you need the AI agent to accomplish.
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The blame is on the scientist authors for research misconduct IMO. They aren't forced to use AI, and accidents happen but they should be proofing their papers.
 
Meatloaf=Steak said:
I swear this AI stuff is going to end us up like Terminator 2.
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I can't find the article so it might have been BS but a month or so ago I read something that claimed several LLMs have played a war games type scenario and they all end up killing humans in some way or another.

They also set one human & LLM team against another human & LLM team and not only did the LLMs stop listening to their human allies they stopped trying to destroy other LLM they actively tried killing the humans.
 

FESTUS, Missouri — Voters in a small Missouri town, unhappy with the city council’s approval of a $6 billion data center, struck back at the polls last week, ousting all four incumbent council members running for reelection.

Tuesday’s election in Festus, Missouri — a city of 12,000 people along the Mississippi River a half-hour south of St. Louis — is the latest example of growing public backlash against cities agreeing to host hyperscale data centers over the objections of residents concerned about their local impacts.

On the same day as the Festus election, voters in Port Washington, Wisconsin, a Milwaukee suburb, where tech giants Oracle and OpenAI are building a $15 billion data center campus, also registered their disapproval by overwhelmingly passing a first-of-a-kind referendum to restrict future projects. At least three other cities across the country will vote on similar measures this year.
 
altmin said:

FESTUS, Missouri — Voters in a small Missouri town, unhappy with the city council’s approval of a $6 billion data center, struck back at the polls last week, ousting all four incumbent council members running for reelection.

Tuesday’s election in Festus, Missouri — a city of 12,000 people along the Mississippi River a half-hour south of St. Louis — is the latest example of growing public backlash against cities agreeing to host hyperscale data centers over the objections of residents concerned about their local impacts.

On the same day as the Festus election, voters in Port Washington, Wisconsin, a Milwaukee suburb, where tech giants Oracle and OpenAI are building a $15 billion data center campus, also registered their disapproval by overwhelmingly passing a first-of-a-kind referendum to restrict future projects. At least three other cities across the country will vote on similar measures this year.
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Thats Good Donald Glover GIF
 
altmin said:

FESTUS, Missouri — Voters in a small Missouri town, unhappy with the city council’s approval of a $6 billion data center, struck back at the polls last week, ousting all four incumbent council members running for reelection.

Tuesday’s election in Festus, Missouri — a city of 12,000 people along the Mississippi River a half-hour south of St. Louis — is the latest example of growing public backlash against cities agreeing to host hyperscale data centers over the objections of residents concerned about their local impacts.

On the same day as the Festus election, voters in Port Washington, Wisconsin, a Milwaukee suburb, where tech giants Oracle and OpenAI are building a $15 billion data center campus, also registered their disapproval by overwhelmingly passing a first-of-a-kind referendum to restrict future projects. At least three other cities across the country will vote on similar measures this year.
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Out of town money paying a maasive amount of the town's budget, a huge spurt of jobs and economic activity heading into a possible recession, all the water you could want since it's right next to the Mississippi River and a neighbor that's as quiet as a graveyard. Yep, sounds like something to vote against. Luddites.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
quiet as a graveyard.
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You ever been near one
the whole town will HUMM
And I don't know about Missouri-but in NC the legislature controlled Business Incentives programs usually mean basically they don't pay taxes
In the end , what, 12 permanent jobs
 
mpaer said:
You ever been near one
the whole town will HUMM
And I don't know about Missouri-but in NC the legislature controlled Business Incentives programs usually mean basically they don't pay taxes
In the end , what, 12 permanent jobs
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I've been in one. I've been in dozens. And inside they do hum on the inside but I've never heard anything coming out of them. Most of them are built in hardened structures so that weather events don't take them down which has the added benefit of deadening all the noise.

Probably more than 12 permanent jobs for a data center that big but not that many more. But the economic activity to build the thing is enormous. It's $6 billion in a town the size of Wake Forest. That's $500k per resident. The local labor unions spent $50,000 to try to to keep this project going because they saw how much their members were going to make. Sucks to be them.
 
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gtyellowjacket said:
I've been in one. I've been in dozens. And inside they do hum on the inside but I've never heard anything coming out of them. Most of them are built in hardened structures so that weather events don't take them down which has the added benefit of deadening all the noise.

Probably more than 12 permanent jobs for a data center that big but not that many more. But the economic activity to build the thing is enormous. It's $6 billion in a town the size of Wake Forest. That's $500k per resident. The local labor unions spent $50,000 to try to to keep this project going because they saw how much their members were going to make. Sucks to be them.
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Thanks for sharing your experiences I have heard others
They are a menace to water supplies and power supplies
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Out of town money paying a maasive amount of the town's budget, a huge spurt of jobs and economic activity heading into a possible recession, all the water you could want since it's right next to the Mississippi River and a neighbor that's as quiet as a graveyard. Yep, sounds like something to vote against. Luddites.
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An issue in Festus was an agreement allowing the developer to drill private wells if the Festus municipal water supply couldn't meet the facility's demand, combined with an issue from a data center in oregon or somewhere that leaked some contaminant or bad effect into the local aquifer and the nearby subdivision was on.

NYTimes or similar was citing resident concerns in other places that their utility bill was going to go up... and of course the NIMBY effect is large. Folks in the country don't want to see windmills, solar panel fields or giant buildings.
 
gregh1 said:
An issue in Festus was an agreement allowing the developer to drill private wells if the Festus municipal water supply couldn't meet the facility's demand, combined with an issue from a data center in oregon or somewhere that leaked some contaminant or bad effect into the local aquifer and the nearby subdivision was on.

NYTimes or similar was citing resident concerns in other places that their utility bill was going to go up... and of course the NIMBY effect is large. Folks in the country don't want to see windmills, solar panel fields or giant buildings.
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Its right next to the Mississippi. I'm wondering if water is an issue for this particular town. I'm sure there is some pumping and treatment costs but I would assume it could be workable. Power could be an issue. If I'm a resident, I'd want to see that plan but again, I assume its workable for the benefit of a quiet new tenant bringing some large economic resources without the downside of those expensive school children.

But I suspect this was more of an emotional decision rather than a logical one led by people that don't like AI because its new and from an article I read, citizens that were upset by some emails from their representatives that portrayed them as bumpkins.
 
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