College Basketball 2025-26 Season Thread

[wmheel1287]

Nah. Read IC. Read UNC fan groups on Facebook. I have a buddy. UNC grad. Hour after we beat dook he says on text group thread this win will be remembered like UNC win over Miami in football in 2004. Could not enjoy fur an hour.
The race element is real. I live in Lumbee land. Lumbees love the heels. Y'all can take it from there

Well the good thing for HD and UNC is that you could align the entire population of Robeson County against him and it wouldnt amount to a fart in the wind.

Lol, that would be like me saying "people in Tarboro dont like him". Nobody gives a shit about what those kinds of people think and it certainly won't ever be a factor in the job decision for HD.

 

[heel79]

Real with who? It’s nothing I’ve heard at all. I’m not sure what you’re saying about the Lumbees.

Well the good thing for HD and UNC is that you could align the entire population of Robeson County against him and it wouldnt amount to a fart in the wind.

Lol, that would be like me saying "people in Tarboro dont like him". Nobody gives a shit about what those kinds of people think and it certainly won't ever be a factor in the job decision for HD.

I agree. You were the one who asked me who these people were. To be clear I don't think a single poster on here who wants HD gone is influenced by race. Now on IC ....

 

[Zoo_View]

There has been plenty of evidence of that fact. Multiple knowledgeable college basketball people have stated that Hubert does not have a good rep with talent, agents, and coaches.

He is a nice guy. He knows basketball. But his rep for handling elite talent is not good with the people that funnel that talent.

Now, reputations are not set in stone. Things could change. But I’m not just fabricating this.

Who are the elite talents who’ve played for UNC in the Hubert era?

Caleb Wilson - who has done well on a Hubert Davis coached team.

That’s the extent of elite talent on Hubert Davis coached teams.

Drake Powell - who played well on a Hubert Davis coached team. He’s really good; but, he wasn’t elite coming out of high school. Elite is Phil Ford, James Worthy, MJ, The Jet, Antawn Jamison, Felton, May, McCants, Tyler Hansbrough, Caleb Wilson.

Caleb Love? Armando Bacot? R.J. Davis? Elliot Cadeau? Captain Jack?

None are elite talents.

Hubert’s suffered in terms of signing elite talent. Same as Coach Williams from the beginning of the paper class “scandal” through the end of his career.

Yet, d00k, Kentucky, and Kansas were RAKING in elite talent.

What had changed?

$$$$$

 

[Zoo_View]

I agree. You were the one who asked me who these people were. To be clear I don't think a single poster on here who wants HD gone is influenced by race. Now on IC ....

I read ‘79’s comments about Lumbees as being they’re fine with Hubert.

I read his comment about a guy on his Facebook feed as being a white guy who either was at UNC in the mid-to-late ‘70’s or who never attended UNC; and, that guy hasn’t liked Hubert since Hubert was named as head coach; I read ‘79’s comments as this guy (and many on IC) didn’t like Hubert because, well, Hubert’s black.

 

[wmheel1287]

I read ‘79’s comments about Lumbees as being they’re fine with Hubert.

I read his comment about a guy on his Facebook feed as being a white guy who either was at UNC in the mid-to-late ‘70’s or who never attended UNC; and, that guy hasn’t liked Hubert since Hubert was named as head coach; I read ‘79’s comments as this guy (and many on IC) didn’t like Hubert because, well, Hubert’s black.

No. I asked him if he knew people who don't like Coach Davis because he is Black and he brought up being from "Lumbee Land" as the response. He is saying that Lumbee UNC fans do not want a Black coach at Carolina. I don't have any idea of the accuracy of that but that's definitely what he is saying.

 

[Zoo_View]

No. I asked him if he knew people who don't like Coach Davis because he is Black and he brought up being from "Lumbee Land" as the response. He is saying that Lumbee UNC fans do not want a Black coach at Carolina. I don't have any idea of the accuracy of that but that's definitely what he is saying.

I don’t think ‘79 was saying that. I thought he was saying that Lumbees, who often have conflicts with blacks, like Hubert. That Hubert being black didn’t matter to the Lumbees ‘79 knows.

Then, I think ‘79 strongly implied a white guy he is acquainted with doesn’t like Hubert as head coach because Hubert is black.

 

[donbosco]

I read it the way ZooView did.

 

[SnoopRob]

If only there were a poster on here who could clarify 79’s comments.

 

[heel79]

Glad to. Been busy.
WM is close. I wrote it that was bc those that know, know. Lumbees love the heels, but there is a longstanding struggle locally between Lumbee and A-A. When I was editor of the paper, a local leader said put 2 babies in a crib and they get along, put 3 in there and they will fight. When Lumbees git share if power they did not share. So I hear stuff directed at HD. As I said, I don't think anyone on here doesn't like HD because of race. Far too educated and sophisticated crowd. IC? Welp, yea.
It does exist. Question is how much? I will drop it now. Or try to. The point is made.
Let's beat Louisville and see RJ honored for being a warrior and great Tar Heel.

 

[Heelsandeers]

I'll pose another question to you, what have you seen from HD and his staff that gives you a realistic belief that he will get the program to that status moving forward from today?

I think they have shown improvement this season in roster utilization and trusting players

Better rotations and finding role/fit for what they do have. Efficient offense from a roster built very different with minimal guard scoring/playmaking

Landing one of the top bigs in the portal and putting him in position to really showcase his skill in a major role

Landing one of the top freshman who was considered “raw” and “toolsy” and having him come in and look extremely polished and dominant from the start

There are still plenty of things I would like to see from the staff. Mainly putting together a better roster and altering the approach on the defensive end

 

[mpaer]

I think they have shown improvement this season in roster utilization and trusting players

Better rotations and finding role/fit for what they do have. Efficient offense from a roster built very different with minimal guard scoring/playmaking

Landing one of the top bigs in the portal and putting him in position to really showcase his skill in a major role

Landing one of the top freshman who was considered “raw” and “toolsy” and having him come in and look extremely polished and dominant from the start

There are still plenty of things I would like to see from the staff. Mainly putting together a better roster and altering the approach on the defensive end

Incoming Mingo is suposedly a Leaky like defender with a 6'9 wing span

 

[Heelsandeers]

Incoming Mingo is suposedly a Leaky like defender with a 6'9 wing span

The more I learn about Mingo the more I like. I’m all for a player who does everything but shoot

Considering the run of shooters lately that have come to Chapel Hill, forget how to shoot, and provide little else

Defense at the guard spot is critical and something Hubert’s teams have been lacking

 

[stankeylegjones]

I think they have shown improvement this season in roster utilization and trusting players

Better rotations and finding role/fit for what they do have. Efficient offense from a roster built very different with minimal guard scoring/playmaking

Landing one of the top bigs in the portal and putting him in position to really showcase his skill in a major role

Landing one of the top freshman who was considered “raw” and “toolsy” and having him come in and look extremely polished and dominant from the start

There are still plenty of things I would like to see from the staff. Mainly putting together a better roster and altering the approach on the defensive end

Thanks for responding.

I don’t get your point about HV, where/how else would someone play him? It seems pretty straightforward how to utilize him.

Think about all of the extra support given this year. They brought in a GM, an analytics team, and a top 2-3 NIL budget. Wilson exceeded everyone’s expectations, so much so that he’s probably the best freshmen we’ve had in 20+ years. They have another NBA player in HV. Yet, with all of that, in a make or break season (by most accounts) for this staff, we were 26th in Torvik going into the Miami. We were out of the ACC race incredibly early into conference play. Roster construction is once again questionable at best. We still see major issues with this team that have plagued past teams. And we once again have a team who rarely plays to their potential, both with and without Wilson.

 

[stankeylegjones]

The more I learn about Mingo the more I like. I’m all for a player who does everything but shoot

Considering the run of shooters lately that have come to Chapel Hill, forget how to shoot, and provide little else

Defense at the guard spot is critical and something Hubert’s teams have been lacking

Are you concerned that it will put too much on the other players on the court to be good shooters, so that we don't have another year with teams just packing it in the paint?

 

[finesse]

Hasn't Veesaar moved from the mid 50s to the mid to upper 20s as a prospect since he's been here? That's a pretty big jump but neither rating makes him a lock for the NBA.

Just fwiw, sometimes other people win. It's not that UNC lost. We were out of the ACC race early because Duke is running away with it. There have been a number of years where our record would have us as contenders or leaders.

 

[stankeylegjones]

Hasn't Veesaar moved from the mid 50s to the mid to upper 20s as a prospect since he's been here? That's a pretty big jump but neither rating makes him a lock for the NBA.

Just fwiw, sometimes other people win. It's not that UNC lost. We were out of the ACC race early because Duke is running away with it. There have been a number of years where our record would have us as contenders or leaders.

I get what you're saying, sometimes others play better, but I don't think Duke's running away with the title is the reason why we're in 6th place. Us losing to SMU, Cal, and Stanford pretty much sealed any kind of shot we had to challenge Duke. Now, we're fighting for a bye in the ACC tournament.

I don't know the exact numbers, but he's definitely go up the boards since arriving. Yes, I do agree, this team does have talent, more than most.

 

[finesse]

I don't think Duke's running away with the title is the reason why we're in 6th place. Us losing to SMU, Cal, and Stanford pretty much sealed any kind of shot we had to challenge Duke. Now, we're fighting for a bye in the ACC tournament.

I don't know the exact numbers, but he's definitely go up the boards since arriving.

Your statement was not about us being in 6th place but out of the race incredibly early. I have to respond to argument you make. That makes Duke germane. Veesaar did not come here as an NBA ready player and is not necessarily one now. That weakens your argument about us having two NBA players and does raise the question of how it happened. Waving your hand and acting is if it's clear what you said is not what you meant and everybody should know that makes it hard for me to follow what you're saying.

 

[Bigs23]

With the unbalanced schedule the ACC standings don't carry the same significance they once did.

 

[stankeylegjones]

Your statement was not about us being in 6th place but out of the race incredibly early. I have to respond to argument you make. That makes Duke germane. Veesaar did not come here as an NBA ready player and is not necessarily one now. That weakens your argument about us having two NBA players and does raise the question of how it happened. Waving your hand and acting is if it's clear what you said is not what you meant and everybody should know that makes it hard for me to follow what you're saying.

Not sure what you mean by NBA-ready now. He's as ready as most other fringe first rounders.

Regarding the ACC regular season, we lost the opportunity, barring a collapse, to challenge for the top spot by losing early on to SMU, Cal, and Stanford.
Regarding the standings, Duke's success is not the reason we're currently sitting in 6th place.

Let me know if I need to clarify anything.

 

[Calheel]

With the unbalanced schedule the ACC standings don't carry the same significance they once did.

The schedule is was LESS unbalanced than it has been for several years. Every team plays basically every other team 1 time with just a couple of home and aways. We play Duke twice, which makes our schedule slightly harder but not significantly so. We play Syracuse twice instead of BC but that is basically a push.