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Mulberry Heel said:
Just read that the dude is set to make $54 million AFTER getting fired, as that is what LSU owes him. So he fails utterly at LSU and will still walk away with a fortune. IMO, the amount of money being paid to coaches at these big schools is obscene and increasingly indefensible, especially given that many schools are also cutting humanities and liberal arts departments to "save money" and otherwise cutting back on the educational side of their institutions, which is supposedly why they exist in the first place. (I know, I know, it's an SEC school and they really exist just for the football program, but still).
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To be fair, coaches’ salaries are nearly exclusively paid by donations to athletic departments—they aren’t funded by the university itself.

That is, most states have a cap on what they can pay a coach—and it’s usually lower than what they pay the university president or the highest paid prof. So around 1-2 million, give or take.

The rest of the money comes from donors.

It’s still an obscene amount of cash, no argument there. And it shows how fucked up our priorities are as a populace.
 
CFordUNC said:
I have never been able to understand these insanely exorbitant buyout figures. What are these schools thinking? Brian Kelly was literally having his agent call every major school with an opening for the last couple of years during his tenure at Notre Dame begging for another job. LSU could’ve had him for whatever they wanted. Same thing with Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M a few years ago. Just insane to me that these schools allow themselves to get bent over the barrel financially like this.
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Jimmy Sexton lol.

He’s actually not Brian Kelly’s agent but he if you had to pin the way these absurd salaries and buyouts got to this point on one person, it would be him.
 
I don't know how much longer this madness can continue? It now takes $100M+ for a big name football school to hire a new coaching staff - $50M to fire the old coach and 50M to hire the new coach.
 
Ramrouser said:
I don't know how much longer this madness can continue? It now takes $100M+ for a big name football school to hire a new coaching staff - $50M to fire the old coach and 50M to hire the new coach.
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And Gio is making 900k - 2 mil.
This is why eggs are so expensive.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I get more angry every time I think about what we are paying this staff and this roster. We could literally recruit a team of walkons for nothing but the scholarship, hire grad assistants to coach them, and have the same record we have right now.
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I think I’d feel better if it came out that this whole thing was just an elaborate troll job that Lee Roberts orchestrated to torpedo his Alma mater’s biggest rival.
 
Peppers49 said:
I think I’d feel better if it came out that this whole thing was just an elaborate troll job that Lee Roberts orchestrated to torpedo his Alma mater’s biggest rival.
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Yeah but we just got another 4 star high school kid so just you wait!
 
CFordUNC said:
I have never been able to understand these insanely exorbitant buyout figures. What are these schools thinking? Brian Kelly was literally having his agent call every major school with an opening for the last couple of years during his tenure at Notre Dame begging for another job. LSU could’ve had him for whatever they wanted. Same thing with Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M a few years ago. Just insane to me that these schools allow themselves to get bent over the barrel financially like this.
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The buyout figures are tied to the coaching salaries, which have exploded as the money in CFB overall has exploded. When there were limited things that all that money could be spent on, coaching/staff salaries (HC/OC/DC salaries plus the large number of support staff) were one of the few things where money could be (legally) spent that could conceivably make the team on the field a lot better. (Another is facilities and we certainly see how the facility game got a bit crazy, as well.)

I would say that I'd expect to see a downward adjustment for HC salaries in CFB now that funds can be paid to players via NIL, but the NFL pays even more than CFB for top of the line HCs and, if CFB moves downward, then you'd expect that the top college coaches would just head to the NFL as soon as they can.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I get more angry every time I think about what we are paying this staff and this roster. We could literally recruit a team of walkons for nothing but the scholarship, hire grad assistants to coach them, and have the same record we have right now.
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Rumor was that Lombo was being cheap outside of QB. Apparently we weren't willing to match the $ Amare and Beau Campbell were seeking. I don't think anyone knows what we're paying the defensive players, but they're clearly working hard to earn it. The effort to play hard and learn fundamentals and prep via coaching and playbook seem strong.
 
gregh1 said:
Rumor was that Lombo was being cheap outside of QB. Apparently we weren't willing to match the $ Amare and Beau Campbell were seeking. I don't think anyone knows what we're paying the defensive players, but they're clearly working hard to earn it. The effort to play hard and learn fundamentals and prep via coaching and playbook seem strong.
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Lombo is clearly a fucking moron whether that rumor is true or not. Dude completely torpedoed any chance of this experiment succeeding.
 
gregh1 said:
Rumor was that Lombo was being cheap outside of QB. Apparently we weren't willing to match the $ Amare and Beau Campbell were seeking. I don't think anyone knows what we're paying the defensive players, but they're clearly working hard to earn it. The effort to play hard and learn fundamentals and prep via coaching and playbook seem strong.
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Lombo is clearly a fucking moron whether that rumor is true or not. Dude completely torpedoed any chance of this experiment succeeding.
 
CFordUNC said:
Yeah but we just got another 4 star high school kid so just you wait!
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A kid that committed to PSU over Michigan and Notre Dame seems like a good thing. And since players talk, the fact that we're still landing good players seems to cast some doubt on all the smoke regarding locker room problems and player discontent.
 
gregh1 said:
A kid that committed to PSU over Michigan and Notre Dame seems like a good thing. And since players talk, the fact that we're still landing good players seems to cast some doubt on all the smoke regarding locker room problems and player discontent.
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Maybe. I don't follow HS recruiting so candidly I know nothing about this player or his offer list. Always impressive to land a 4-star player, though. However, it will be more impressive if he is still here in 2027 or 2028 when he would be most likely to make an impact on the field for the first time. I'm mainly skeptical of this approach of having a 74-year-old coach taking ~45 high school recruits in next year's class. Unless Lombardi has some major unforeseen aces up his sleeve in the transfer portal this offseason, adding 45 new high school recruits is going to have us in the exact same position next year, only next year we'll be going 3-9 getting our tails kicked with 18 year-olds instead of with 23-year-olds.
 
SnoopRob said:
The buyout figures are tied to the coaching salaries, which have exploded as the money in CFB overall has exploded. When there were limited things that all that money could be spent on, coaching/staff salaries (HC/OC/DC salaries plus the large number of support staff) were one of the few things where money could be (legally) spent that could conceivably make the team on the field a lot better. (Another is facilities and we certainly see how the facility game got a bit crazy, as well.)

I would say that I'd expect to see a downward adjustment for HC salaries in CFB now that funds can be paid to players via NIL, but the NFL pays even more than CFB for top of the line HCs and, if CFB moves downward, then you'd expect that the top college coaches would just head to the NFL as soon as they can.
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Some places have begun to change the buyout language. Mack’s contract only paid one year’s salary as a buyout. When Shane Beamer signed an extension 2? years ago, the buyout terms were a decent amount less than a fully guaranteed contract.
 
gregh1 said:
Rumor was that Lombo was being cheap outside of QB. Apparently we weren't willing to match the $ Amare and Beau Campbell were seeking. I don't think anyone knows what we're paying the defensive players, but they're clearly working hard to earn it. The effort to play hard and learn fundamentals and prep via coaching and playbook seem strong.
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The DLs that Lombo found (for cheap) and the defensive staff coached up are performing at a higher level than the vaunted 5*s that Mack landed and Cross coached down.

QB was a total whiff obviously. The thing that kills me is Gio is NOT a dual threat QB. I don't know what they saw in the film that made them make that conclusion - other than he performed well at the G5 level.
 
Ramrouser said:
The DLs that Lombo found (for cheap) and the defensive staff coached up are performing at a higher level than the vaunted 5*s that Mack landed and Cross coached down.

QB was a total whiff obviously. The thing that kills me is Gio is NOT a dual threat QB. I don't know what they saw in the film that made them make that conclusion - other than he performed well at the G5 level.
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Apparently Todd Mcshay liked him after seeing him at a camp throwing vs zero pressure...
 
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