Congress Catch-All

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So let's say at the end of his term, Trump announces that as an official act of his office he will continue as president for an indefinite period.

Who would enforce his removal from office ?

His SCOTUS ?
His DOJ ?
His House of Representatives ?

Should a Dem controlled House impeach would cowardly GQP Senators risk a primary with a MAGA stooge and convict ?

Should he be impeached and convicted , who would enforce his removal from office ?
 
nycfan said:
Republicans like Chip Roy need to be “Done away with”?

“Our Country is better off closing up for a period of time than agreeing to the things the Democrats want …”

“Go for the Victory even if it means shutting the Government down for a period of time”
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nothing says america first like closing the country.
 
heelinhell said:
So let's say at the end of his term, Trump announces that as an official act of his office he will continue as president for an indefinite period.

Who would enforce his removal from office ?
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the military and that is the purpose of pete hegseth
 
superrific said:
who? the 12th is clear. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States"

the "slide in thru the back strategy" cannot be accomplished this way. it would require a vp to resign, congress to appoint trump to vp, then the president to resign.
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Clearly, I don't have a clue but if you Google the topic, there are several arguments of that nature that will pop up. I haven't the knowledge to judge the argument or the qualifications of the people making it but I am qualified to tell you people are making it.
 
finesse said:
Clearly, I don't have a clue but if you Google the topic, there are several arguments of that nature that will pop up. I haven't the knowledge to judge the argument or the qualifications of the people making it but I am qualified to tell you people are making it.
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all i see are arguments that trump (or obama) could ascend to the presidency through the vice presidency, if the person could become vice president without being elected. and that is true. but there's no reason to go that route. if the plan hinges on the president and vice president both resign, just make trump speaker and do it that way.
 
ZenMode said:
He's saying that Republicans would have to do something to give him the option to run for a third term. Republicans aren't going to do that. There is no way. It would be political suicide.
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Sure. That will be the first and only time Trump 1) asks GOP congressmen for permission, and then 2) they don’t back his play.
It would in no way be political suicide unless GOP voters stop going along with the MAGA ruse, something they seem unwilling to do.
In my humble opinion.
 
superrific said:
who? the 12th is clear. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States"

the "slide in thru the back strategy" cannot be accomplished this way. it would require a vp to resign, congress to appoint trump to vp, then the president to resign.
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There's certainly an argument that the 12th prohibits it. But I'd draw a distinction between being constitutionally eligible to the office (i.e., 35 years old, natural born citizen, resident for 14 years) and being constitutionally eligible to being elected to the office (i.e., elected to the office more than twice). I do not have confidence that this Supreme Court would interpret the 12th as a prohibition.
 
ZenMode said:
You believe that Trump is trying to put Hegseth in place because he plans to stay in office indefinitely and wants Hegseth to keep the military from intervening?
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i believe the purpose of hegseth is to purge the military of people who wouldn't be loyal to trump. the reason i believe that is pete hegseth himself said that is one of the goals. trump said it is a goal. members of trumps' transition team say it. why do you think they want to court martial milley?

i do not know what trump will seek to use this pliant military for should he succeed in getting one. maybe not for extending his term. but whatever it is, its bad.
 
TangledUpInBlue06 said:
There's certainly an argument that the 12th prohibits it. But I'd draw a distinction between being constitutionally eligible to the office (i.e., 35 years old, natural born citizen, resident for 14 years) and being constitutionally eligible to being elected to the office (i.e., elected to the office more than twice). I do not have confidence that this Supreme Court would interpret the 12th as a prohibition.
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the 12th is about election procedures. in context it is clear that it means nobody who can't be elected president can be elected vice president. this is not a difficult question of law. you are right that 22nd is about elections not service, but that doesnt do any work here.
 
lawtig02 said:
Nothing seems impossible right now. We all thought Elon was way overpaying for Twitter. Who knew he was actually buying the GOP? And at least for the next few years, the United States of America.
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Wouldn't Elon have to disown (or whatever the correct wording is) his businesses if he were to take an official government position?
 
ZenMode said:
Wouldn't Elon have to disown his businesses if he were to take an official government position?
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Maybe. Trump has done a pretty nifty job navigating that, though. There’s almost no practical limits on grifting by opportunistic public servants.
 
superrific said:
the 12th is about election procedures. in context it is clear that it means nobody who can't be elected president can be elected vice president. this is not a difficult question of law. you are right that 22nd is about elections not service, but that doesnt do any work here.
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I disagree that it is clear. I believe there is more than one plausible interpretation.
 
ZenMode said:
Wouldn't Elon have to disown (or whatever the correct wording is) his businesses if he were to take an official government position?
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It wasn’t an issue for Trump. Simply allow puppets to be placed in positions to run your business(es).
 
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