CURRENT EVENTS - DECEMBER

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Why do people do this stuff? People try to ruin Halloween and Easter for kids by linking them to some Satanic past. Now, people are trying to ruin a song that I'd bet 99% of people had no awareness of it's racist past.

Nolte: Joy Reid Posts Video About How ‘Jingle Bells’ Is Racist​

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Nolte: Joy Reid Posts Video About How ‘Jingle Bells’ Is Racist

Joy Reid sent out a video to her 1.3 million social media followers that claims “Jingle Bells” is racist.
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Biden did the cannabis thing too. Why wouldn't Trump? I don't understand why Biden couldn't get it done. Apparently he faced a lot of resistance from within various agencies.

You'd think Trump would have done this long ago. People like marijuana.
 
ZenMode said:
Why do people do this stuff? People try to ruin Halloween and Easter for kids by linking them to some Satanic past. Now, people are trying to ruin a song that I'd bet 99% of people had no awareness of it's racist past.
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Probably because the point isn't to "ruin" the song but rather to expose how the legacy of racism remains with us today. Some people like to say, "oh, racism is a thing of the past" -- and though that isn't true, let's suppose it was. We would still be living with the legacy of racism as expressed through cultural artefacts.
Personally, I don't think this particular nugget of information is valuable, at least not to me. But I can just ignore it. You could too. It's not hurting anyone.
 
ZenMode said:
Why do people do this stuff? People try to ruin Halloween and Easter for kids by linking them to some Satanic past. Now, people are trying to ruin a song that I'd bet 99% of people had no awareness of it's racist past.

Nolte: Joy Reid Posts Video About How ‘Jingle Bells’ Is Racist​

www.breitbart.com

Nolte: Joy Reid Posts Video About How ‘Jingle Bells’ Is Racist

Joy Reid sent out a video to her 1.3 million social media followers that claims “Jingle Bells” is racist.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com
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Just proves there's stupids on both sides. You're one of them if you don't realize that.

This isn't a particularly harmful misrepresentation like teaching your child racism from birth or claiming something is Satanic and ruining a Christian holiday when it's only Christians' own superstitions causing that issue. Only the spawn of Abraham ( or so they claim) or people reacting to them even claim to believe in Satan. When Christians get bit by their own foolishness why should I care?
 
superrific said:
Probably because the point isn't to "ruin" the song but rather to expose how the legacy of racism remains with us today. Some people like to say, "oh, racism is a thing of the past" -- and though that isn't true, let's suppose it was. We would still be living with the legacy of racism as expressed through cultural artefacts.
Personally, I don't think this particular nugget of information is valuable, at least not to me. But I can just ignore it. You could too. It's not hurting anyone.
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Exactly. It takes something completely benign and makes it cancerous and for what? Does it contribute anything of value to any discussion about race?
 
ZenMode said:
Exactly. It takes something completely benign and makes it cancerous and for what? Does is contribute anything of value to any discussion about race?
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It's only cancerous if people not only believe in the origin but think it matters in terms of the place the song has in the holiday. This is as big an issue as a fart in a hurricane. Fwiw, if you had the common sense to ignore it, it wouldn't even get its fifteen minutes. That's based on the assumption that's your goal. ;)
 
ZenMode said:
Exactly. It takes something completely benign and makes it cancerous and for what? Does it contribute anything of value to any discussion about race?
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Why study history, then? The song is a historical artifact. One can simultaneously enjoy the song, value it is as an individual, and collective, tradition, and understand that it is also representative of a time when racism was more accepted. Talking about that helps us understand where the song came from and what it reflects about the past. We don’t have to stop enjoying the song, but we should be honest about its history. We should view the past with honesty, not just through nostalgia. Doing so encourages us to reflect on how we can grow and improve now—because today will one day become history, too, studied by future historians, in an age that they, too believe to be more enlightened than the "now."
 
I did the customary half minute research and answered two questions that I never previously cared enough about to look up. What does it have to do with Christmas? Nothing. It was probably a drinking song. How did it become part of Christmas? Nobody knows. Best theory is that sleighing songs and Christmas frequently are more prevalent in the winter in this hemisphere.

That changes how I feel about it. Instead of another damned annoying Christmas song, it's now another annoying winter song.
 
finesse said:
It's only cancerous if people not only believe in the origin but think it matters in terms of the place the song has in the holiday. This is as big an issue as a fart in a hurricane. Fwiw, if you had the common sense to ignore it, it wouldn't even get its fifteen minutes. That's based on the assumption that's your goal. ;)
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Brings to mind my favorite metaphor from Cloud Atlas: "'I ain't afraid o' you!' I telled him, tho' tell-it true, my voice was jus' a duck fart in a hurricane”
 
finesse said:
It's only cancerous if people not only believe in the origin but think it matters in terms of the place the song has in the holiday. This is as big an issue as a fart in a hurricane. Fwiw, if you had the common sense to ignore it, it wouldn't even get its fifteen minutes. That's based on the assumption that's your goal. ;)
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It’s been such a shocking revelation that the original research that discovered the song’s past was made public/published in 2016 and we can see that it has been summarily stricken from society.

Also, it’s amusing that Zen is frothing at the mouth over “breaking news” that occurred almost a decade ago.
 
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Icky Mettle said:
I can’t imagine what his wife is thinking right now.
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My first somewhat facetious thought was that she was thinking "Am I going to be able to run this company by myself?" Then I saw the tweet and yep, that is what she was thinking and evidently the answer was yes...
 
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