CURRENT EVENTS July 31-Sept 27

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Molotov Mocktail said:
Much like yourself, it was a joke. I don’t engage magats on anything of substance because y’all lack it entirely.
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You probably should though, because lack of substance is why you lost everything. So it would appear your definition of substance is a little weak.
 
Callatoroy said:
Only a stupid twit would think asking for an id to vote and wanting minimize the chance of voter fraud = voter suppression. Just further proof that you are weak minded, devoid of policy, and have to rely on buying votes to win an election.
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As many as 34 million voting-age Americans don't have a valid governmental ID. What alternative do you propose other than to disenfranchise them?

Univ of Maryland voting study
 
Callatoroy said:
You are a hypocrite because you act as if your party is sitting on some fake moral high ground
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How is it hypocritical to act like your moral high ground is fake?
I guess you are saying the democrats have a real moral high ground? Nice of you to admit that.
 
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Thieves Target Tennessee National Guard Facilities, Stealing Night Vision Goggles and More

A string of US armory break-ins, kept quiet by authorities for months, points to a growing security crisis—and signs of an inside job.
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A string of previously undisclosed break-ins at Tennessee National Guard armories last fall marks the latest in a growing series of security breaches at military facilities across the United States, raising fresh concerns about the vulnerability of US armories to theft and intrusion.

A confidential memo from the Tennessee Fusion Center reviewed by WIRED details four break-ins at Tennessee National Guard armories over a seven-week span. In one incident, thieves made off with night vision goggles, laser target locators, and thermal weapons sights, among other equipment. At others, intruders breached fences, tripped alarms, and gained access to supply rooms discovered in the aftermath to have been unlocked.
At least some of the break-ins seem to point to potential insider help. In Covington, Tennessee, for example, evidence suggests intruders may have known in advance the location of a secure key control box. At other sites, attempts were made to bypass alarms and entry points.


The memo, which was intended solely for law enforcement use, does not indicate that any weapons were stolen; however, a government anti-terrorism coordinator is quoted as saying: “These events are concerning not only due to the stolen items being sensitive in nature but also because of the indicators for some insider knowledge being needed for successful breach and theft.”

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Initially regarded as isolated incidents, the memo cites years’ worth of FBI and Defense Department reporting on what agents call “domestic violent extremists,” or DVEs, discussing plans to raid armories for weapons and gear, leading analysts to suspect organized activity. Domestic intelligence has consistently flagged violent militia members and racially motivated extremists eyeing armories as soft targets.

“Although DVEs previously have stolen some lower-level military gear, the FBI has not identified any instances in which a DVE successfully raided an armory to steal heavy military equipment,” the memo reads. “To circumvent such a raid, FBI and DoD are enhancing liaison with local armories and military facilities to address gaps in reporting about current plots to exploit armory vulnerabilities and increase opportunities to detect and prevent DVE theft of military equipment.”

Between 2020 and 2024, the memo says, at least four FBI subjects discussed raiding military facilities for heavy weapons, including .50-caliber firearms and machine guns. Three had confirmed military backgrounds. One—a former Guard member—identified specific armories that he had served in, while describing how best to exploit their security. It’s unclear whether any charges were brought.

Extremist chatter cited by the document echos these ambitions. In early 2024, a militia-linked Telegram user proposed assessing armory vulnerabilities with help from sympathetic firefighters and sought military or law enforcement recruits for inside information. In another case, an active-duty tank commander claimed he could sway an armorer to hand over weapons, while a former Air Force contractor talked about raiding a Guard facility to seize mortars and secure land.
 
farce© said:
The goal of the census is to determine how many people are living in an area. It has nothing to do with whether or not they are citizens. Only citizens can vote, but EVERYBODY gets representation. Only citizens get to decide who represents EVERYBODY in a state or district. Everybody there uses roads, water, and other infrastructure that is apportioned according to census data. Census data is much more important than simply voting.
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Huh? said:
As many as 34 million voting-age Americans don't have a valid governmental ID. What alternative do you propose other than to disenfranchise them?

Univ of Maryland voting study
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That's rich of you talking about disenfranchising voters when the democratic party disenfranchised the entire party in selecting it's potus candidate. Somehow the left isn't bothered by that but requiring an ID to vote to strengthen the integrity of the vote makes you shit your diaper. Why is that?

By placing some accountability on people to vote. Voting is a privilege. Not a requirement. That tired excuse is bullshit. If people want to drive they get an Id. If people get g'ment benefits they have some form of ID. We require a lot of things in our society. Requiring an ID is trivial, especially if you make it free. If voting isn't important enough for someone to get a free ID then I don't want them voting.
 
Huh? said:
As many as 34 million voting-age Americans don't have a valid governmental ID. What alternative do you propose other than to disenfranchise them?
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Ooh oh, I know this one. No realistic alternative because disenfranchisement is the point, but masking that fact with vague statements that are related but not actually relevant (e.g. "Get an ID, you need one to [thing that isn't voting]") while ignoring that valid IDs cost money (actual money or time away from a job/dependents), fraudulent voting is already a crime, and fraud is incredibly rare.
 
Callatoroy said:
You are so full of shit. The dim party is in the midst of a 30 year low unfavorable rating now.
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I fear I may have hurt your feelings and for that I apologize. I don't believe you have sunk to ad hominem attacks in our discussions/debates before now. I have considered you a reasonable MAGA board poster , but it seems like you have unraveled a bit over the past couple of weeks.

According to the conservative RCP average of polls, Dems are favored over GQPers by 4% .

So let's get back to a rational discussion/debate regarding whether a majority of Americans support Democratic policies when it comes to the major issues.
 
here is what the constitution says about the census. I don't see any exclusion of non-citizens. Does anyone else? In fact, I'm pretty sure that it explicitly directs the enumeration to count all "free persons."

according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years,
 
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