ChileG
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This is unbelievable. And it’s shocking to me that we have Americans citizens who either cheer this on or just don’t care.
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This is unbelievable. And it’s shocking to me that we have Americans citizens who either cheer this on or just don’t care.
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Of course you don’t see a problem with it. You don’t believe police are capable of violating the law while conducting their duties.
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“The River House Broke. We Rushed in the River.”
The July 4 Texas flooding ripped our Kerr County home from its pillars, pulling us into the water and into the night. Then morning came.
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Fair warning, this personal account of the flood (which involves two kids) made me shed a few tears.
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If you’re at a protest, film everything you can. Hell, livestream it.The autocratic conversion of the US continues.
Skateboards and Livestreams: DHS Tells Police That Common Protest Activities Are ‘Violent Tactics’
DHS is urging law enforcement to treat even skateboarding and livestreaming as signs of violent intent during a protest, turning everyday behavior into a pretext for police action.www.wired.com
The Department of Homeland Security is urging local police to consider a wide range of protest activity as violent tactics, including mundane acts like riding a bike or livestreaming a police encounter, WIRED has learned.
Threat bulletins issued during last month’s “No Kings” protests warn that the US government’s aggressive immigration raids are almost certain to accelerate domestic unrest, with DHS saying there’s a “high likeliness” more Americans will soon turn against the agency, which could trigger confrontations near federal sites.
Blaming intense media coverage and backlash to the US military deployment in Los Angeles, DHS expects the demonstrations to “continue and grow across the nation” as protesters focused on other issues shift to immigration, following a broad “embracement of anti-ICE messaging.”
The bulletins—first obtained by the national security nonprofit Property of the People through public records requests—warn that officers could face assaults with fireworks and improvised weapons: paint-filled fire extinguishers, smoke grenades, and projectiles like bottles and rocks.
At the same time, the guidance urges officers to consider a range of nonviolent behavior and common protest gear—like masks, flashlights, and cameras—as potential precursors to violence, telling officers to prepare “from the point of view of an adversary.”
Protesters on bicycles, skateboards, or even “on foot” are framed as potential “scouts” conducting reconnaissance or searching for “items to be used as weapons.” Livestreaming is listed alongside “doxxing” as a “tactic” for “threatening” police. Online posters are cast as ideological recruiters—or as participants in “surveillance sharing.”
One list of “violent tactics” shared by the Los Angeles–based Joint Regional Intelligence Center—part of a post-9/11 fusion network—includes both protesters’ attempts to avoid identification and efforts to identify police. The memo also alleges that face recognition, normally a tool of law enforcement, was used against officers.
Vera Eidelman, a senior staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, says the government has no business treating constitutionally protected activities—like observing or documenting police—as threats.
DHS did not respond to a request for comment.
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Patel and Noem are polygraphing senior officials to determine who is saying bad things about them.
and so it goes in the march to autocracy...
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and so it goes in the march to autocracy...
'Weak': Kash Patel slammed as he polygraphs FBI officials for bad-mouthing him
FBI Director Kash Patel has forced senior officials to reveal, under polygraph tests, whether they have ever said anything bad about him, The New York Times reported on Thursday."In interviews and polygraph tests, the F.B.I. has asked senior employees whether they have said anything negative...
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Not true at all. That's unfair, and would be the same as me saying "you don't believe that protesters have ever broken the law or caused violence".
I agree with this. I also agree that protesters should not be allowed to wear masks that conceal their identity.
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Should law enforcement?
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Fuck that. If you can imprison me at a black site, without ever stating your name, agency, or the charge then I say every single mass action should look like this:
I grew up almost entirely with kids of cops and firefighters, most of which became cops and firefighters. For all the first responder do gooder vibes, the majority really are just boot heelers. They should have concern if the public is aligning against their authoritarian fascist behavior.
One side has taken a sworn oath to uphold the law and protect citizens. Let's not go all Vietnam in America and decide "WE had to destroy that village to save it." That's BS.
In most cases, no, unless they are undercover or are wearing gas masks during civil unrest.
Fuck that. If you can imprison me at a black site, without ever stating your name, agency, or the charge then I say every single mass action should look like this:
I grew up almost entirely with kids of cops and firefighters, most of which became cops and firefighters. For all the first responder do gooder vibes, the majority really are just boot heelers. They should have concern if the public is aligning against their authoritarian fascist behavior.
The people wearing masks to conceal their identity generally aren't normal members of the "public". They are professional agitators/rioters who are concealing their identity because they intend to commit criminal acts and don't want to be caught. Protesting is protected free speech; rioting is not.
I don't think there are "sides" here. The overwhelming majority of cops are just people trying to do their jobs, and the overwhelming majority of protesters for any cause are just people trying to express their opinions in a lawful manner. The problems come from the extremists within both groups, neither of whom should be defended or protected from the consequences of their actions.
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Show some proof of this assertion
Black bloc - Wikipedia
Behind the Black Bloc
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Of course, the mask wearing is not limited to one side. The Proud Boys and other far-right groups are also known for wearing face covering to conceal their identities.
Maybe "normal" cops although the rate of shooting deaths by sheriffs in rural areas continue to rise, but the type of people joining ICE with the speed of hiring, the lack of vetting and the administrative approach makes me extremely skeptical that we're not putting thugs on the street.
We certainly didn't need to spend that kind of money or focus so much on such a flimsy issue as immigration. There's been a hell of a lot more claims about issues than demonstrable issues.