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Trump: “ For most of our country’s history, the Bible was found in every classroom in the nation, yet in many classrooms today students are indoctrinated with anti-religious propaganda and some are even punished for their religious beliefs very, very strongly punished, it’s RIDICULOUS. …”
 


“… Conservative political figures including Trump’s deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, have shared footage of the deadly attack and used it to paint Democrats as “soft on crime.”

Billionaire Elon Musk published several social-media posts about the attack, calling for expedited death penalty sentences in cases with “unequivocal guilt.”

Charlotte’s mayor, Vi Lyles, and North Carolina’s governor, Josh Stein, are Democrats.

Police arrested the suspect, Decarlos Brown Jr., 34, and charged him with first degree murder. …”
 
I occasionally go on my X account, which just exists, but doesn't have any posts and doesn't follow anything, to see what gets shared. It's a lot of fucked up shit. The Charlotte subway attack is the current thing being pushed. And the way it is being explored is nearly as vile as the act it himself.
 
Icky Mettle said:
This is where disinformation/misinformation comes in to affect a narrative along with people not taking the time to understand how things work.

With regard to the robbery conviction, he was sentenced to a minimum term of 6 years, 1 month. That is the highest minimum term he could legally receive for a robbery with a dangerous weapon conviction under North Carolina Structured Sentencing absent a finding of a statutory aggravating factor (which can be found only by either the defendant’s admission/stipulation in court or by a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, if one exists at all). The sentence he received also consisted of the highest possible maximum term of 8 years, 4 months. (In NC, you go into prison facing the maximum sentence but you have the opportunity to work it down to minimum term— and no less than that— upon completion of rehabilitative and vocational courses, through doing jobs while incarcerated, and by avoiding too many/certain kinds of disciplinary infractions).

As for the other arrests, most of them were for misdemeanors, including things like misusing 911 and disorderly conduct. Those are not charges that anyone is going to sit around in jail for. I also believe that the “14 arrests” referenced are actually referring to 14 charges vs. arrests. In other words, he wasn’t arrested 14 separate times. He was arrested fewer times, and some of those times he faced multiple related charges.

As for the assault charges, they were misdemeanors. If you have any familiarity with how things generally work with those types of charges, the prosecuting witnesses typically don’t want to have anything to do with charges after the arrest. They frequently duck subpoenas and don’t show up to court if they are served with a subpoena. I cannot say for certain any of that happened with his assault charges, but I do think it is very safe to assume that that is exactly what happened. In my 20 years of experience, it occurs much more often than not.
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I don't disagree. AZ has a minimum of 7 years. DC is 5. Texas is 5.

Nothing seems out of the ordinary.
Icky Mettle said:
This is where disinformation/misinformation comes in to affect a narrative along with people not taking the time to understand how things work.

With regard to the robbery conviction, he was sentenced to a minimum term of 6 years, 1 month. That is the highest minimum term he could legally receive for a robbery with a dangerous weapon conviction under North Carolina Structured Sentencing absent a finding of a statutory aggravating factor (which can be found only by either the defendant’s admission/stipulation in court or by a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, if one exists at all). The sentence he received also consisted of the highest possible maximum term of 8 years, 4 months. (In NC, you go into prison facing the maximum sentence but you have the opportunity to work it down to minimum term— and no less than that— upon completion of rehabilitative and vocational courses, through doing jobs while incarcerated, and by avoiding too many/certain kinds of disciplinary infractions).

As for the other arrests, most of them were for misdemeanors, including things like misusing 911 and disorderly conduct. Those are not charges that anyone is going to sit around in jail for. I also believe that the “14 arrests” referenced are actually referring to 14 charges vs. arrests. In other words, he wasn’t arrested 14 separate times. He was arrested fewer times, and some of those times he faced multiple related charges.

As for the assault charges, they were misdemeanors. If you have any familiarity with how things generally work with those types of charges, the prosecuting witnesses typically don’t want to have anything to do with charges after the arrest. They frequently duck subpoenas and don’t show up to court if they are served with a subpoena. I cannot say for certain any of that happened with his assault charges, but I do think it is very safe to assume that that is exactly what happened. In my 20 years of experience, it occurs much more often than not.
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I don't disagree with any of that. I've seen it reported as 14 arrests in multiple places, but you can't add up a bunch of misdemeanors and put someone away for years.
 
nycfan said:


“… Conservative political figures including Trump’s deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, have shared footage of the deadly attack and used it to paint Democrats as “soft on crime.”

Billionaire Elon Musk published several social-media posts about the attack, calling for expedited death penalty sentences in cases with “unequivocal guilt.”

Charlotte’s mayor, Vi Lyles, and North Carolina’s governor, Josh Stein, are Democrats.

Police arrested the suspect, Decarlos Brown Jr., 34, and charged him with first degree murder. …”
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What, exactly, do either the mayor or the governor have to do with (a) whether a person is imprisoned for a crime, or (b) how long of a prison term that person serves? If this guy had been pardoned or had his sentence commuted, this political grandstanding would have at least some basis in reality. But what happened to him was a function of (1) the laws enacted by the NC legislature, and (2) the judges who applied those laws. The first were absolutely not Democrats, and it's not at all clear the second group were either.
 
lawtig02 said:
What, exactly, do either the mayor or the governor have to do with (a) whether a person is imprisoned for a crime, or (b) how long of a prison term that person serves? If this guy had been pardoned or had his sentence commuted, this political grandstanding would have at least some basis in reality. But what happened to him was a function of (1) the laws enacted by the NC legislature, and (2) the judges who applied those laws. The first were absolutely not Democrats, and it's not at all clear the second group were either.
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Yep. Many people who voice their outrage don’t even stop to consider or find out how things work. Hell, the Charlotte mayor doesn’t really have power to do anything. It’s pretty much just a ceremonial office. And of course our state legislature has tried to make the governor’s office mostly ceremonial as well.

But even beyond those two offices, many of the outraged don’t seem to consider or know how our government functions and what the roles of certain government offices are, or how the criminal justice system actually works.

As for the perpetrator here, there was no reason for him not to be out on the streets. He had completed his sentence for the robbery conviction several years ago. It was the maximum sentence he could receive for that offense. The only pending charge he had was misuse of 911. And to be frank, based on what I know about that case, he probably never should have been charged as it seems pretty clear he was having an episode brought on by mental illness and did not “knowingly” misuse the 911 system.
 
sringwal said:
I occasionally go on my X account, which just exists, but doesn't have any posts and doesn't follow anything, to see what gets shared. It's a lot of fucked up shit. The Charlotte subway attack is the current thing being pushed. And the way it is being explored is nearly as vile as the act it himself.
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I deleted my account after Elon went full MAGA, but the NFL season brought me back. I created a new account just to follow some NFL/Fantasy accounts. And then of course, I started dabbling in the politics and yeah... the pubs and MAGAts on X are vile disgusting pieces of shit. So I match energy.
 
dukeman92 said:
I deleted my account after Elon went full MAGA, but the NFL season brought me back. I created a new account just to follow some NFL/Fantasy accounts. And then of course, I started dabbling in the politics and yeah... the pubs and MAGAts on X are vile disgusting pieces of shit. So I match energy.
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I don’t even respond. I just scroll to bear witness to what the algorithm shows me.
 
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