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$100 per active duty military member doesn’t do a whole lot.
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Somehow, much of this money will end up in Trump’s pocket.
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“… Viktor Orban, the country's longest-serving prime minister, sees his 15-year-long rule challenged by an upstart — Peter Magyar. And the rallies that took place in Budapest on a national holiday commemorating Hungary's 1956 anti-Soviet uprising shed some light on the divide between the two camps.
"We don't want to die for Ukraine," read a banner carried by supporters of Orban, who has cast his Fidesz party as a "force of peace" — in contrast to EU "warmongers" sending arms to Ukraine.
… In turn, those who joined Magyar's rally chanted"Russians go home!" drawing on the legacy of the 1956 rebellion crushed by Soviet tanks.
Magyar blasted the prime minister as a man who went from an anti-Soviet activist in his youth to "the Kremlin's most loyal ally."…”
Hungary’s election race begins with rival rallies and growing political rift
So what do the two camps stand for?
Mulberry Heel
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“… Viktor Orban, the country's longest-serving prime minister, sees his 15-year-long rule challenged by an upstart — Peter Magyar. And the rallies that took place in Budapest on a national holiday commemorating Hungary's 1956 anti-Soviet uprising shed some light on the divide between the two camps.
"We don't want to die for Ukraine," read a banner carried by supporters of Orban, who has cast his Fidesz party as a "force of peace" — in contrast to EU "warmongers" sending arms to Ukraine.
… In turn, those who joined Magyar's rally chanted"Russians go home!" drawing on the legacy of the 1956 rebellion crushed by Soviet tanks.
Magyar blasted the prime minister as a man who went from an anti-Soviet activist in his youth to "the Kremlin's most loyal ally."…”
Hungary’s election race begins with rival rallies and growing political rift
So what do the two camps stand for?kyivindependent.com
I'll believe that Orban has lost when he is actually out of office. Until then I suspect that he'll do whatever it takes to remain in power, including simply rigging the election or just refusing to leave if he somehow does lose. Given his near-total control of Hungary's news media, military, and government it's hard to imagine him being forced out if he's not willing to go voluntarily. Even if he loses the election somehow he could always just have his opponent arrested or killed and stage a coup to stay in power.
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Trump calling anyone else a "Crooked Moron" is so ironic/hypcritical that it demands the creation a new word.
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EyeballKid
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Wonder how much Trump’s promise to provide financial relief and trade perks only if Milei wins has influenced voters.
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Honestly, at this point, I wish he would have won in 2020, so he would be gone and the recovery would have already started. Plus he would have been salted with the inflation.
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Heavy. not just their history and worldview but the fact that your economy is trash.
They particularly would buy them into a poor persons view of a rich man because a faction constantly tries themselves as part little piece of Europe misplaced in latin america and pretty racist(past & present).
The money, alignment with America, AND Trump work there.
This election is Hungary could have serious implications for the United States. Yes, Orban will falsify election results. But I have a hunch there would be massive protests which could lead to his fall. The timing of his fall would be about the same time that many Republicans in Congress would know whether they have primary opposition or not. Which could then lead to taking the keys away from Trump. We can only hope.
That is certainly true. The world would have been much better off if Biden had lost. But it is what it is. You can't rewrite history, just re-live it.
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That’s entirely speculative and depends on a lot of assumptions (like the idea that he wouldn’t have tried for a third term in 2024 if he’d have won in 2020, for one).
1. He wouldn’t have had time to develop project 2025 or attract the bitcoin bros (or even Elon Musk).
2. He wouldn’t have the 2020 election loss fueling his every move.
3. We wouldn’t have the terrible Supreme Court precedent for presidential immunity.
4. Ukraine invasion would be on his watch so he wouldn’t be able to blame Biden. It may or may not have impacted Ukraine’s initial ability to defend itself, but there wouldn’t be the rug pulling that happened in Trump 2.0.
5. Same with Gaza. The democrats wouldn’t have suffered the same backlash from the left for Israel support. That ire would have been largely directed at Trump.
6. Trump would have been saddled with inflation and his popularity would have been in the low 30s at best after 2022.
7 if Trump ran for a third term, he would have been trounced.
8. Much of the authoritarian stuff we’ve seen from Trump 2.0 was developed during the four year break. For example, I seriously doubt you get the private ICE armies because there would have been much less immigration in a consecutive Trump term.