Do the Right Thing

[TangledUpInBlue06]

I can't imagine hating or writing off anyone over their political views, possibly because my own cynicism makes me able to understand that their decision on the lesser of the two evils might be based on a different perspective than mine. How exactly does their decision diminish your life in any meaningful way? The price you pay for your own freedom to choose is that they also have the same freedom.

I very much like your first and last sentences. Well said. But I do think our neighbors can make decisions that diminish our lives. And if they make those decisions deliberately to diminish others' lives, they may not deserve the benefit of our doubt.

Still, I'm onboard with your message.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

I can't imagine hating or writing off anyone over their political views, possibly because my own cynicism makes me able to understand that their decision on the lesser of the two evils might be based on a different perspective than mine. How exactly does their decision diminish your life in any meaningful way? The price you pay for your own freedom to choose is that they also have the same freedom.

In normal times I would agree. If this were about them voting for Reagan or either Bush I would just chalk it up as a difference of opinion based on different life experiences.

I can’t do that with MAGA.

 

[dukeman92]

America died Tuesday. And the worst part is that it was a suicide.

 

[uncjhodges]

It’s funny how the people whining about friendship being more important than politics would never change their politics to save a friendship.

This. My in laws are Trumpers. Everything has to be on their terms. They “just want their family to be together” as long as that is at their house when they are available. Never would come to seattle but show up day 1 when we moved back to nc. My wife canceled going to their house for Thanksgiving yesterday, just couldn’t pretend any more. But their response was just that “politics shouldn’t come between love of family etc”

 

[theel4life]

This. My in laws are Trumpers. Everything has to be on their terms. They “just want their family to be together” as long as that is at their house when they are available. Never would come to seattle but show up day 1 when we moved back to nc. My wife canceled going to their house for Thanksgiving yesterday, just couldn’t pretend any more. But their response was just that “politics shouldn’t come between love of family etc)

I refuse to pretend with my friends and family any longer.

 

[altmin]

I am kind of planning to retreat into my family and life and embrace where I live more. If I am not planning on living America again, kind of time for me to stop caring about it. Probably reroute my charitable giving to more local Nova Scotian causes and taper off what I did to help Americans. It's not admirable, but I am hopeless at this point. Feels like trying to sweep the hallways of the Titanic as it was sinking.

 

[uncjhodges]

I refuse to pretend with my friends and family any longer.

Yep, i’ve been told elections have consequences. I can acknowledge that he won, just doesn’t mean i have to engage with his voters in my own time. Life is too short to hang out with self righteous racists

 

[UNCMSinLS]

Yep, i’ve been told elections have consequences. I can acknowledge that he won, just doesn’t mean i have to engage with his voters in my own time. Life is too short to hang out with self righteous racists

Amen, my brother!

 

[circlesky88]

Doing the right thing is not the American thing to do anymore. I'm gonna get mine is more like it.

 

[OGtruthhurts]

Both parties are controlled by big corps and mega wealthy donors. I dont like Americans in general and a large majority of the world agrees. You need serious perspective if you like or dislike someone because of politics. Your side is controlled by $ when push comes to shove just like the other.

 

[uncjhodges]

Both parties are controlled by big corps and mega wealthy donors. I dont like Americans in general and a large majority of the world agrees. You need serious perspective if you like or dislike someone because of politics. Your side is controlled by $ when push comes to shove just like the other.

To me, it has nothing to do with the actual “old school politics”. I would care far less about this, if they were just voting for George Bush. But, Donald Trump is a morally repugnant person who ran a nakedly racist, sexist campaign and voting for him is a deal breaker for me. You don’t have to see it that way, but I do

 

[TamatoSoup]

I'll do the right thing for sure. I hope Trump gets to push everything through he promised.
I'll be fine. Make decent coin, white male living in the SE USA... I'll be fine.
But those who are struggling, good luck on your own!

Would hate to see these tariffs destroy the working class economy. Would also hate to see a few terrorist attacks.

 

[superrific]

Really racist and doesn't belong in this area at all

But the most important thing to know is, how did the inflation from three years ago create material struggles so intense that she had no choice but to vote for Trump?

 

[UNCatTech]

This. My in laws are Trumpers. Everything has to be on their terms. They “just want their family to be together” as long as that is at their house when they are available. Never would come to seattle but show up day 1 when we moved back to nc. My wife canceled going to their house for Thanksgiving yesterday, just couldn’t pretend any more. But their response was just that “politics shouldn’t come between love of family etc”

My brother is like this.

I told him that once my mother is settled after my father's passing, that he will never hear from me again.

He still making everything harder than it needs to be. He isn't helping at all. Honestly, while I feel sorry for him, I'm so fucking tired of him.

If not for my mother needing help, I would have already moved on.

 

[aGDevil2k]

I can't imagine hating or writing off anyone over their political views, possibly because my own cynicism makes me able to understand that their decision on the lesser of the two evils might be based on a different perspective than mine. How exactly does their decision diminish your life in any meaningful way? The price you pay for your own freedom to choose is that they also have the same freedom.

When their political views are to make your life worse when it doesnt impact them?

I mean maybe your comment is find for straight white men. But for women? Gay folks? Black people? Sorry this isn't a disagreement over mustard vs ketchup. This is "do I have a right to my own personal security and happiness" shit. So no, I have zero fucks to give about writing off MAGAs. It's why HY got blocked - cause he says he's moderate and in the same breath disdains gay people. Fuck him and fuck trying to be the bigger person.

 

[Healing]

How exactly does their decision diminish your life in any meaningful way?

This will take less than two years to see, with purest fidelity.

 

[superrific]

I can't imagine hating or writing off anyone over their political views,

How is that possible, given that you support a political movement that embodies just that behavior more than any other movement in modern American history? I mean, this is just laughable.

Maybe you can't imagine it, but you do it every single day. Every single time you defend Trump, you are endorsing the idea that there is an "enemy within" who needs to be fought and suppressed -- the enemy within being defined solely by political views. So which is it? You can't have it both ways. I mean, you can think you can, but don't be surprised when other people see through the bullshit.

This is why people think MAGA is motivated by hate and little else. Because every single alternate explanation MAGA world offers is obviously false and does not remotely explain what they show us on a daily basis.

 

[Healing]

This. My in laws are Trumpers. Everything has to be on their terms. They “just want their family to be together” as long as that is at their house when they are available. Never would come to seattle but show up day 1 when we moved back to nc. My wife canceled going to their house for Thanksgiving yesterday, just couldn’t pretend any more. But their response was just that “politics shouldn’t come between love of family etc”

Because they're terminally selfish. 50% of the country, at least, has end-stage main character syndrome.

 

[IncognitoJones]

This will take less than two years to see, with purest fidelity.

exactly. why not wait with the holier than thou bullshit until after his administration takes over the country? if you still believe it then, good for you. for the rest of us, fuck them forever.

 

[Centerpiece]

I am all out of empathy for MAGA. My MAGA brother who is dealing with long COVID because he didn’t get vaccinated had surgery yesterday to remove a cancerous tumor (supposedly an easy one to fix) and then had to be rushed to the hospital afterward due to chest pains (likely related to long covid). I am far more worried about the future of our country to worry about his self inflicted MAGA induced problems.

I just hope he dies before me so he isn’t running around my funeral talking about whether or not I am saved.

And I get that too. I have a brother like that as well. But he lives in another town and we've been estranged since the second Obama term. Should he reach out, I'll do the next "right" thing.