DOGE Catch-All | DOGE ledger “riddled with errors”

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Enigma94 said:
You don't have to believe it, but it's all public record that FEMA has extended the deadline more than once and there are articles out there outlining how people distrust FEMA so much they refuse to apply for aid. One particular odious piece of misinformation is that FEMA would take their land. I don't expect a MAGA loser to believe evidence, so just continue to wallow in your ignorance for all I care.
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If FEMA were ran correctly and wasn't politized the right people would be getting help. The Biden administration put illegals ahead of citizens. One of many reasons the voters put Trump back in office
 
Silence Dogood said:
If FEMA were ran correctly and wasn't politized the right people would be getting help. The Biden administration put illegals ahead of citizens. One of many reasons the voters put Trump back in office
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Yeah and immigrants wouldn't be eating pets and hurricanes could be stopped by nukes and covid could be stopped by ingesting bleach . . .
 
korgguy1971 said:
And there it is.

No surprise at all to be sure, but it would seem we have yet another MAGA troll not interested in a good-faith discussion.
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Not a 100% sure he's MAGA. Definitely a troll, though. Also, I make it about that same 100% that he'll never show up with a reputable source or likely any source for what he's spewing.
 
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Silence Dogood said:
You consume way too much left wing propaganda!! No wonder left wing media is failing at epic proportions!
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Facts are facts. They don't belong to any political persuasion.
They are not "right" or "left". They are not "liberal" or "conservative".
They are not Republican, Democratic, Libertarian, Green Party or MAGA.
Opinions are not facts. Entertainment is not facts. Using buzzwords like "left wing media" and "left wing propaganda" only indicates bias.
It has no bearing on what is factual and what is not.
 
Silence Dogood said:
You're missing the point. FEMAs job isn't to send money to luxury hotels.
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Actually, FEMA is authorized and directed by law to provide emergency housing assistance to certain migrants while their cases are being handled:

“The Shelter and Services Program (SSP), as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, is administered by FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). In Fiscal Year 2024, Congress appropriated $650,000,000 for SSP. SSP provides financial support to non-federal entities to provide sheltering and related activities to noncitizen migrants following their release from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The intent is to support CBP in the safe, orderly, and humane release of noncitizen migrants from short-term holding facilities.”

www.fema.gov

Shelter and Services Program | FEMA.gov

The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is funded through U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), and administered by FEMA, as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023.
www.fema.gov www.fema.gov

This funds were separately authorized and are different than the much much larger pot of hundreds of billions of funds and authorizations for disaster relief also administered by FEMA.

People in some remote areas use tent shelters because there are no available brick and mortar shelters due to hurricane damage and simple lack of motels or any other structures in remote mountain areas. Migrants in cities are placed in empty hotel space because that is what is available in a dense urban area.

When motels were available, FEMA provided them in NC:

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The temporary housing is provided through FEMA's Transitional Sheltering Assistance program, which covers the cost of short-term accommodations at local hotels and motels for those who have been displaced.

As of January 6, more than 5,600 households were staying in hotel or motel rooms paid for by FEMA, local news station ABC 13 reported.

But the agency has stated that nearly 3,500 households have been deemed 'no longer eligible' for for the program, either because an inspection had indicated their homes were now habitable, they declined an inspection, or FEMA has been unable to contact them to update their housing needs. …”

www.dailymail.co.uk

Winter storm hits Americans living in tents after hurricane season

A winter storm is barreling through the US, slamming into a state where people are 'still living in tents' after the hurricane season. Twenty states, from Texas to Delaware, were on alert Friday for snow.
www.dailymail.co.uk

And FEMA deadlines in NC keep getting extended as needed.

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Governor Josh Stein released the following statement regarding FEMA’s decision to extend its Transitional Sheltering Assistance (TSA) program for two months, through May 26, 2025:

“Today’s decision will help eligible disaster survivors stay safe and sheltered as we continue the hard work of rebuilding in western North Carolina. FEMA’s decision to extend the Transitional Sheltering Assistance Program for two months is a positive step forward and frees eligible disaster survivors from worrying about being kicked out of the program in March. I pledge to work with the new administration to find solutions and resources that will best serve disaster survivors in North Carolina. …”

Governor Stein On FEMA Extending Temporary Housing Program

Governor Josh Stein released the following statement regarding FEMA’s decision to extend its Transitional Sheltering Assistance (TSA) program for two months, through May 26, 2025:
governor.nc.gov governor.nc.gov

No one is staying in a luxury hotel in Swananoa NC b/c there is no luxury hotel there and even if there had been it probably would have been severely damaged or destroyed like virtually every other structure there.

As for whether FEMA is using “luxury” hotels for migrants in NYC, let’s see some evidence. If they are and there is a luxury premium being paid over what other available space costs, then definitely change that.
 
Over the weekend, Elon sent out a Twit post. He is calling for the impeachment of the Federal judge that put a temporary block on DOGE's unfettered access to Treasury systems.

WTH is going on here? MAGAts truly do not understand the Constitution and the purpose of equal branches of gov. for checks and balances. Or they just don't care.

Aa a former Pub who has watched my party die and resurrect as the weird ignorant populist party, I am certain it is the former for the MAGAt cultists, and the latter for the spineless MAGA politicians.
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
Over the weekend, Elon sent out a Twit post. He is calling for the impeachment of the Federal judge that put a temporary block on DOGE's unfettered access to Treasury systems.

WTH is going on here? MAGAts truly do not understand the Constitution and the purpose of equal branches of gov. for checks and balances. Or they just don't care.

Aa a former Pub who has watched my party die and resurrect as the weird ignorant populist party, I am certain it is the former for the MAGAt cultists, and the latter for the spineless MAGA politicians.
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From one fellow conservative and former Republican to another, I just want to say how awesome it is that you, unlike a handful of other posters on here who scream that they are conservative until they are blue in the face but who are actually anything but, were able to put country and constitution over party.
 
CFordUNC said:
From one fellow conservative and former Republican to another, I just want to say how awesome it is that you, unlike a handful of other posters on here who scream that they are conservative until they are blue in the face but who are actually anything but, were able to put country and constitution over party.
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Yes. There's another upshot to this, which is that the rest of Americans understand who is and who isn't a good faith participant in democracy.

I disagree with Krafty on a lot of things. Ten years ago, it was hard to figure out whether his stance was based on principle or some combination of convenience, reflexive opposition and ignorance. It's much easier now. I mean, I still think some of his positions are not based on firm knowledge, but at least I know there's a principle there.

Which is to say, we can still have discourse with Krafty. I'm a liberal in part because for most of my life, conservatives have mostly taken unserious and misinformed positions on most issues. But not all! Conservatives invented cap and trade, and that was a great policy innovation and it's a good thing that back in the 1980s, there were serious conservatives who had serious ideas and took them seriously.

And sometimes liberals are wrong! The madness in Oregon about drug addiction is an example. But why did Oregon liberals get the opioid issue so wrong? Probably because they aren't in dialogue with conservatives, because conservatives aren't in dialogue with reality. Conservatives were carrying on about mask wearing and false flag school shootings and migrants taking over cities -- that is, they were not serious people to engage with. So when they said, "hey, this idea is going to fail," why should liberals pay attention? When a party is basically all bullshit, all the time, then people rightly stop listening.

This isn't to say that conservatives made liberals screw up in Oregon. Liberals did that. But it might have been avoided had there been two reality-based parties.
 
Billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency has a key ally in the US Department of the Treasury: Tom Krause, a veteran technology executive who’s now a special government employee, or consultant, at the agency. Until a federal judge temporarily blocked DOGE’s access on Saturday, Krause had “read-only” access to Treasury’s payments system, which handles more than 1.2 billion transactions a year. The government calls it “America’s checkbook,” an essential window into the federal spending that President Donald Trump is looking to slash by $1 trillion or more.

Krause, 47, who’s serving as fiscal assistant secretary at Treasury, will keep his day job: chief executive officer of Cloud Software Group, which owns a company called Citrix Systems. His deep cost-cutting there shows why he may have appealed to Trump and Musk, the president’s adviser and Tesla Inc.’s CEO—and also why some people familiar with Krause’s record are unsettled about his new government role.

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Using a time-honored playbook, Citrix’s new owners financed the purchase mostly by loading up the company with debt—and then started eliminating thousands of employees to cut costs. Its financial results are improving.

But investing in cybersecurity isn’t like buying, and turning around, a struggling chain that sells groceries or furniture. It means handling risks to critical services more like those of owning a hospital or medical practice—matters of life or death where PE cost-cutting has provoked congressional inquiries.

At Citrix, employees raised an alarm about Krause’s approach and say their fears were borne out. Losing personnel left security software and hardware more vulnerable as bad actors stepped up their attacks, according to interviews with a dozen former Citrix staffers. They include executives, managers and software engineers involved in security. Many were dismissed after the buyout, and most asked for anonymity to discuss sensitive internal matters.

Hugh Boyd worked for 14 years at Citrix as a product security engineer before he lost his job in January 2024. Boyd, who says he’d been planning to retire anyway, notes that the company’s software includes millions of lines of code and complicated systems that have to work together to provide protection.

“What they did is probably one of the single biggest mistakes you can make in a security organization,” he says of the new owners’ staff reductions. “If you start running people off who are highly qualified and who have been doing this at the company for years, you’re really putting yourself in a precarious position from a security standpoint.”

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After the company instituted cuts, intruders infiltrated Citrix’s products in two major hacks. In 2023, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, or CISA, the US government’s top online watchdog, ranked two vulnerabilities in Citrix software as the No. 1 and No. 2 most exploited flaws by hackers.
 
altmin said:
Billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency has a key ally in the US Department of the Treasury: Tom Krause, a veteran technology executive who’s now a special government employee, or consultant, at the agency. Until a federal judge temporarily blocked DOGE’s access on Saturday, Krause had “read-only” access to Treasury’s payments system, which handles more than 1.2 billion transactions a year. The government calls it “America’s checkbook,” an essential window into the federal spending that President Donald Trump is looking to slash by $1 trillion or more.

Krause, 47, who’s serving as fiscal assistant secretary at Treasury, will keep his day job: chief executive officer of Cloud Software Group, which owns a company called Citrix Systems. His deep cost-cutting there shows why he may have appealed to Trump and Musk, the president’s adviser and Tesla Inc.’s CEO—and also why some people familiar with Krause’s record are unsettled about his new government role.

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Using a time-honored playbook, Citrix’s new owners financed the purchase mostly by loading up the company with debt—and then started eliminating thousands of employees to cut costs. Its financial results are improving.

But investing in cybersecurity isn’t like buying, and turning around, a struggling chain that sells groceries or furniture. It means handling risks to critical services more like those of owning a hospital or medical practice—matters of life or death where PE cost-cutting has provoked congressional inquiries.

At Citrix, employees raised an alarm about Krause’s approach and say their fears were borne out. Losing personnel left security software and hardware more vulnerable as bad actors stepped up their attacks, according to interviews with a dozen former Citrix staffers. They include executives, managers and software engineers involved in security. Many were dismissed after the buyout, and most asked for anonymity to discuss sensitive internal matters.

Hugh Boyd worked for 14 years at Citrix as a product security engineer before he lost his job in January 2024. Boyd, who says he’d been planning to retire anyway, notes that the company’s software includes millions of lines of code and complicated systems that have to work together to provide protection.

“What they did is probably one of the single biggest mistakes you can make in a security organization,” he says of the new owners’ staff reductions. “If you start running people off who are highly qualified and who have been doing this at the company for years, you’re really putting yourself in a precarious position from a security standpoint.”

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After the company instituted cuts, intruders infiltrated Citrix’s products in two major hacks. In 2023, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, or CISA, the US government’s top online watchdog, ranked two vulnerabilities in Citrix software as the No. 1 and No. 2 most exploited flaws by hackers.
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Fyi, Citrix provides security products for thousands of hospitals.
 
I will just respond to Super with 2 things and leave that discussion for another time and place. Otherwise, we derail the thread.

1) I am as anti-Trump as anyone here, so of course that makes me more acceptable than pre-Trump.

2) My views have not changed dramatically from my former party, the party itself has. Furthermore, I am much more involved in following, and studying political principles, as well as learning from many informed people here. My posts (I think) are more thoughtful and less combative/mud-slinging than 10 years ago.

But I assure you, there are many policies and political theory that we would very much disagree on, still. Nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, we have an absolute self serving corrupt THREAT leading our country again. Real policy discussion doesn't much matter now, when we have a group of total lunatics in absolute control (regardless of party or politics.)
 
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