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CFordUNC said:
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Saw that the Smithsonian removed Trump from the exhibit of presidents who have been impeached....

Not sure MAGAts would ever be able to comprehend how truly Soviet their movement is.

I actually believe in limited government-- which was always a tenet of Conservatives-- but Trump is the most activist, interventionist politician our country has ever seen and not even close.

There is no aspect of American lives that Trump does not want to dominate in FULL. And if the news is bad from that, remove the news and those providing those facts.

MAGAts will keep believing their dear leader bc that is what is overwhelmingly reinforced for them (rather Soviet style pro state media, isn't it?), but there will be enough people to realize they were played (hi Joe rogan) that this "movement" will stall.

Not saying Rogan et al will switch sides, but doubt they will carry MAGA water unchecked any longer
 
Oddball said:
Saw that the Smithsonian removed Trump from the exhibit of presidents who have been impeached....

Not sure MAGAts would ever be able to comprehend how truly Soviet their movement is.

I actually believe in limited government-- which was always a tenet of Conservatives-- but Trump is the most activist, interventionist politician our country has ever seen and not even close.

There is no aspect of American lives that Trump does not want to dominate in FULL. And if the news is bad from that, remove the news and those providing those facts.

MAGAts will keep believing their dear leader bc that is what is overwhelmingly reinforced for them (rather Soviet style pro state media, isn't it?), but there will be enough people to realize they were played (hi Joe rogan) that this "movement" will stall.

Not saying Rogan et al will switch sides, but doubt they will carry MAGA water unchecked any longer
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Rogan has already started getting way more critical from what I hear. The orange luster is long gone.
 
As the economic numbers continue to deteriorate, just remember it's not the Fed, To paraphrase James Carville: "It's the tariffs, stupid,L

Trump has the same extremist views on tariffs than Sam Brownback had on tax cuts when he became Kansas governor, which had disasttous consequences and the tax cuts we reepealed.

We will see if Canada slaps some surcharges on their oil expots to US, and Carney unleashes the Ontario leaders to play the electrricity power card/ Sort of rare earths ploy, Canada style
 
CFordUNC said:
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This is crucial. Trump is constantly cheating to bask in the orange glow.

Without

1. Dependable and accurate economic data

2. An independent central bank

3. Rule of law and check and balances


Our economic word doesn't mean sh*t. The dollar becomes worthless. Our (former) economic friends trade with China and other countries. No on wants US treasury bonds.
 
heelslegup said:
As the economic numbers continue to deteriorate, just remember it's not the Fed, To paraphrase James Carville: "It's the tariffs, stupid,L

Trump has the same extremist views on tariffs than Sam Brownback had on tax cuts when he became Kansas governor, which had disasttous consequences and the tax cuts we reepealed.

We will see if Canada slaps some surcharges on their oil expots to US, and Carney unleashes the Ontario leaders to play the electrricity power card/ Sort of rare earths ploy, Canada style
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Thinking Canada is waiting till Monday, rather than bury the news on a Friday.
 
Not on topic but somewhat related by insanity: trump repositions nuclear submarines nearer Russia. What does trump care? He is 78. His decisions are made out of spite. Why not push the button and we all die?
 
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Calheel said:
Even a 2.7% average across four years would be highly optimistic. We are basically in a 2%-2.5% GDP world these days. That is why I laugh when all the Trumpers tried to defend the BBB by saying that growth would overcome the OMB budget deficit forecasts. They were getting on TV predicting that we would have sustained 4% GDP growth as a result of the BBB. It is just fantasy land.
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lawtig02 said:
I have a vague hunch that with the recent economic news, our resident MAGAs are in that awkward stage where they still want to support Trump, but they're having a harder and harder time explaining why this is different that what happened in Hungary under Orban.

I get it. Moving to the right (left) side sucks. But you guys will either have to do it eventually, or you'll get caught up in the meat grinder. No time like the present.
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Dude, it's a cult.

It's much easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
 
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