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I understand that perspective in the short term. Long term it's simply not a winning strategy. I'm not under any illusion that rural - or culturally rural - voters are going to flock back to Dems any time soon. I have argued with posters like Paine in the past about how much effort Dems should really spend on the ground in rural areas, and continue to believe that trying to build an aggressive "ground game" across all the rural areas in the country (as opposed to more targeted efforts) is not necessarily a great investment. But as long as we have our current electoral college and Senate makeup Dems can't simply ignore rural voters or insist that they blame themselves for Trump. Any rural voters souring on Trump can and should be courted without insisting that they first self-flagellate for their sins.
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Agreed.
I was listening to s podcast about the farmers. I didn't realize that almost 35% get their medical insurance via ACA, so they are looking at big increases, additionally they really rely on the USDA for a lot of data needed in their daily lives. The shutdown is making this data unavailable. This administration is really really screwing farmers.
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Agricultural extension offices also do a lot of shit to help farmers and ranchers, especially of the smaller scale, and many of those programs have taken hits because they’re funded through grants awarded to land grant universities.
Why?
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“Next year” is the new “two weeks.”
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How about asking, “what would it take for you to vote for the candidate who isn’t proposing industry-killing tariffs?”
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worse than the last 3 recessions...
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Tariffs are starting to bite consumers and businesses, economists say - CBS News Tariffs are starting to bite consumers and businesses, economists say
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“… The typical home buyer’s FICO credit score was 735 in the third quarter of this year, according to Realtor.com; that’s roughly 20 points higher than the national average. The website used data from mortgage-technology company Optimal Blue in its report.
The average credit score for typical home buyers was at the highest level in nearly a decade — a “sign that today’s market continues to favor financially strong buyers able to navigate higher prices and tighter lending standards,” Realtor.com said.
… A FICO score of 735 falls within the “good” range of 670 to 739, while a score of 740 to 799 is considered “very good.” Exceptional credit scores are 800 and over.
Most Americans have a “good” FICO score or better…
… Buyers are also much older, less likely to have young children living with them, and more likely to be repeat home buyers than in years past, according to a 2024 report by the National Association of Realtors profiling home buyers and sellers.“
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“… Gold for December delivery GCZ25
-1.04%, the most-active contract, has rallied 56% for the year through Tuesday’s session. It peaked at $4,398 per ounce on Monday in intraday trading as investors searched for havens due to economic uncertainty, inflation risks and simmering U.S.-China trade tensions.
Then on Tuesday, the precious metal plunged by more than 5% to around $4,109 per ounce for the steepest one-day drop in years as “gold tourists,” or investors who bought the precious metal on a fear of missing out on the trade, got squeezed out and money managers rushed to sell in order to protect their gains, Chandler said. The most-active gold contract fell another 1.4% to around $4,054 during Wednesday’s session. …
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www.marketwatch.com
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I wonder if reports of China’s massive stockpiling of gold also drove nervous profit-takers to get out before China destabilized gold prices by dumping some of their unprecedented holdings?
-1.04%, the most-active contract, has rallied 56% for the year through Tuesday’s session. It peaked at $4,398 per ounce on Monday in intraday trading as investors searched for havens due to economic uncertainty, inflation risks and simmering U.S.-China trade tensions.
Then on Tuesday, the precious metal plunged by more than 5% to around $4,109 per ounce for the steepest one-day drop in years as “gold tourists,” or investors who bought the precious metal on a fear of missing out on the trade, got squeezed out and money managers rushed to sell in order to protect their gains, Chandler said. The most-active gold contract fell another 1.4% to around $4,054 during Wednesday’s session. …
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Gold’s plunge raises questions about its role in one of 2025’s popular trades
Gold prices were falling for a second day on Wednesday as skepticism swirled around the precious metal’s role as a hedge against the dollar in one of 2025’s most popular trades.
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I wonder if reports of China’s massive stockpiling of gold also drove nervous profit-takers to get out before China destabilized gold prices by dumping some of their unprecedented holdings?
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Was it China that reversed the gold market or did Trump announce the Oval Office redecoration was complete?“… Gold for December delivery GCZ25
-1.04%, the most-active contract, has rallied 56% for the year through Tuesday’s session. It peaked at $4,398 per ounce on Monday in intraday trading as investors searched for havens due to economic uncertainty, inflation risks and simmering U.S.-China trade tensions.
Then on Tuesday, the precious metal plunged by more than 5% to around $4,109 per ounce for the steepest one-day drop in years as “gold tourists,” or investors who bought the precious metal on a fear of missing out on the trade, got squeezed out and money managers rushed to sell in order to protect their gains, Chandler said. The most-active gold contract fell another 1.4% to around $4,054 during Wednesday’s session. …
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Gold’s plunge raises questions about its role in one of 2025’s popular trades
Gold prices were falling for a second day on Wednesday as skepticism swirled around the precious metal’s role as a hedge against the dollar in one of 2025’s most popular trades.
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I wonder if reports of China’s massive stockpiling of gold also drove nervous profit-takers to get out before China destabilized gold prices by dumping some of their unprecedented holdings?
Episode 17.