Epstein Files | Ghislaine Maxwell

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ZenMode said:
There was the entire story told about Trump grabbing the steering wheel was hearsay.



Who there was representing Trump's side?

They all did because there would be no consequences for lying, they likely all seriously disliked Trump and could say whatever they wanted without consequences.

Right. Not like she despised the guy right?

Ooooook
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You are an entire fucking clown show.
 
ZenMode said:
She was indicted on two counts of perjury, I believe.

What evidence is there that a pink unicorn didn't create the universe?

If you're going to claim that she was moved to a minimum security prison because she agreed or intended to make false statements, it's on YOU to support that claim. It's not my job to disprove what you never proved to begin with.
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why did this DOJ start communicating and doing deals with maxwell at this particular juncture?
 
roostra said:
I finally stopped. He doesn't argue in good faith.
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Such is the character pathology of an anonymous message board contrarian/bosider/concern troll. It's best to just not engage with him - or the other longtime one for that matter - and I find that if you leave them be, they respond in kind. At least, on political threads anyway. Ramrouser probably falls into this class as well, but I can't seem to decide just yet.

Whether people respond to them because they 1) can't help themselves for one reason or another or 2) are somehow amused by the interaction, or what have you, if folks simply stopped responding to them, they would knock it off and/or go elsewhere.
 
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She had two choices. Either use the info she knew as a bargain chip and say Trump was a client and risk getting killed like Epstein did, or say Trump wasn't involved at all and get sent to a minimum security prison and possibly pardoned by Trump.
 
Carolina Fever said:
She had two choices. Either use the info she knew as a bargain chip and say Trump was a client and risk getting killed like Epstein did, or say Trump wasn't involved at all and get sent to a minimum security prison and possibly pardoned by Trump.
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Epstein hung himself. He wasn’t killed.
 
Carolina Fever said:
She had two choices. Either use the info she knew as a bargain chip and say Trump was a client and risk getting killed like Epstein did, or say Trump wasn't involved at all and get sent to a minimum security prison and possibly pardoned by Trump.
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And what if it's true that Trump actually wasn't involved? What should she have done in that situation?
 
ZenMode said:
And what if it's true that Trump actually wasn't involved? What should she have done in that situation?
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Then they would not have had a bunch of people trying to cover up his name on the files and been covering this up.

It could be the K. step two guys that have been accused of several sex crimes and perverted activity towards young women and convicted of sex crimes who were great friends, and both had the same shell modeling agency to be around women did not take part in these crimes together.

Then the question asked why they sent such a senior person for that conversation…different than the norm.

Also, all we know is that nothing that she saw Trump do concerned her. Considering what she did, that’s a pretty low bar.
 
ZenMode said:
And what if it's true that Trump actually wasn't involved? What should she have done in that situation?
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Most of us think that "with no regard for the truth" is the same thing as "false." It's not quite identical, because a person speaking with no regard for the truth could in theory get something right. But we generally assume that people who are speaking with no regard for the truth is doing so with the intent to deceive.

If you'd like me to revise my statement about testifying falsely to testifying without regard for the truth, fine. I will give you this hyper-technical and meaningless nit. The overall point is not seriously in contention.
 
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