Epstein Files | Ghislaine Maxwell

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Ramrouser said:
How about a living breathing victim who comes forward and credibly accuses the President of said behavior. Where's the showy press conference with Gloria Allred?
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That you feel the only evidence that could possibly be worthwhile is direct victim testimony against the most powerful person on the planet speaks broadly as to your own depravity.
 
lawtig02 said:
Wait, you read all the sexual crimes by Trump referenced in Tangled's post, the only one you take issue with is Carroll, and you still support the man as the president of the United States of America???

What is wrong with you???
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I don't have much if any information or knowledge regarding the other allegations so I have no reason to comment one way or the other.
 
wmheel1287 said:
That you feel the only evidence that could possibly be worthwhile is direct victim testimony against the most powerful person on the planet speaks broadly as to your own depravity.
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What about a photo? There are numerous photos of Clinton receiving massages from Epstein's girls. That doesn't mean Clinton is a pedo but it's something.
 
Ramrouser said:
You guys supported Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton so spare me the pearl clutching. Trump didn't leave a woman in a car to drown.
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Ramrouser said:
You all are constantly moving the goal posts. The strong assertion in this thread is that Trump is a confirmed pedo. That's false in that there has been no underage girl who has claimed he had improper contact with them.

No question Trump was a gross groper of women - not defending. The only one I would strongly take issue with is the nutjob E. Jean Carroll.
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Ramrouser said:
You guys supported Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton so spare me the pearl clutching. Trump didn't leave a woman in a car to drown.
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Ted Kennedy? Good fucking God man...that was 100 years ago. And no, I didn't and never have supported Bill Clinton. I knew he was a piece of shit human even in high school. Some of us actually have and maintain standards.
 
Ramrouser said:
What about a photo? There are numerous photos of Clinton receiving massages from Epstein's girls. That doesn't mean Clinton is a pedo but it's something.
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Bill Clinton should never hold elected office again, and if he engaged with sexual conduct with underage girls at the Epstein property I hope he's prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Would you say the same for Trump?
 
rodoheel said:
Bill Clinton should never hold elected office again, and if he engaged with sexual conduct with underage girls at the Epstein property I hope he's prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Would you say the same for Trump?
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Ram would probably say the same, but there's literally no evidence in the world that would get him to actually admit he's been supporting a man who engaged in sexual conduct with underage girls at the Epstein property.
 
Hey @Ramrouser at the White House press conference earlier this week, a reporter asked Katherine Leavitt "Did the president ever spend hours at Jeffrey Epstein’s house with a victim?" and she gave a rambling answer beginning with "These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong" that never actually responded to the question.

So here's the question, ram. if Trump never spent hours at Epstein's house with Virginia Giuffre, why wasn't the answer to that question just "No. That is absolutely false. Next question."?
 
Ramrouser said:
I don't have much if any information or knowledge regarding the other allegations so I have no reason to comment one way or the other.
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Just trying to understand your thinking here. Giuffre said Donald Trump did not sexually assault her and you accept that as the inviolable truth. Carroll said Trump DID sexually assault her and you reject that as a lie. And the other 23 women listed in Tangled's post say Trump sexually assaulted them as well, but you have no "information or knowledge," and therefore "have no reason to comment one way or another."

Seriously, does it ever cross your mind that you draw every conclusion in a way that favors Donald Trump, no matter how inconsistent or illogical that is?
 

Top Goldman Sachs lawyer asked Jeffrey Epstein for career advice, bashed Trump, private emails show​


"Trump is living proof of the adage that it is better to be lucky than smart," she told Epstein in an email in August 2015, while planning a visit to his Manhattan mansion.

Later, Ruemmler expressed alarm about Trump's climb in the polls.

"The Trump success is seriously scary," she wrote in February 2016.

"Trump is truly stupid," Ruemmler wrote in one 2017 email. "Trump is so gross," she said a few months earlier

www.businessinsider.com

Top Goldman Sachs lawyer asked Jeffrey Epstein for career advice, bashed Trump, private emails show

Newly released emails show Kathryn Ruemmler, now Goldman's top lawyer and a former Obama official, maintained ties with Jeffrey Epstein for years.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
Ramrouser said:
How about a living breathing victim who comes forward and credibly accuses the President of said behavior. Where's the showy press conference with Gloria Allred?
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I guess you missed my response to your post about this earlier this morning... or perhaps you ignored it which would hurt my feelings more than you can ever know:cool::cry:
 
WaynetheDrain said:
I was -2 years old when the Chappaquiddick incident happened. And Bill Clinton lied about a blow job.

That’s the best whataboutism you could muster?
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In fairness, Clinton's got several of his own sexual assault allegations. I maintain my position that the acceptable number of sexual assaults committed by a president is zero.
 


Reminder, from July:

"As part of our commitment to transparency, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have conducted an exhaustive review of investigative holdings relating to Jeffrey Epstein. . . .This systematic review revealed no incriminating “client list.” There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties."

Was the initial investigation not as exhaustive as claimed?
 
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