Epstein "stole people" who worked for Trump

Callatoroy said:
I mean they slurp the lies they are told by their liberal media like its water from the fountain of youth.

trump is a russian asset
hunter's laptop is russian interference
joe isn't mentally unstable
obama had nothing to do with russian hoax
trump's tariffs will cause a recession and skyhigh inflation
trump is a threat to democracy

Never have I seen a more gullible and Hoovered group of people who lack all ability for critical thinking. Their TDS has eroded the part of their brain that allows for logical thinking. Their media lies to them repeatedly, then says oops, my bad, when their lies are exposed, and then the process repeats itself over and over and over. They literally are charlie brown trying to kick the football that their media is holding.
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Marking for March 2026.
 
Duke Mu said:
WTH was Trump doing with 16 year old "spa attendants?"

www.theguardian.com

Teen models, powerful men and private dinners: when Trump hosted Look of the Year

In the early 90s, Donald Trump judged contestants at the world’s biggest modelling competition - since hit by allegations of abuse. This is how the people who were there remember it
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On 1 September 1991, a large private yacht cruised towards the Statue of Liberty. It was a clear, breezy evening, and from the upper deck of the Spirit of New York, a golden sunset could be seen glinting off the Manhattan skyline. Downstairs, a party was in flow. Scores of teenage girls in evening dresses and miniskirts, some as young as 14 [hey, not 12!], danced under disco lights. It could have been a high school prom, were it not for the crowd of older men surrounding them.

The party aboard the Spirit of New York was one of several events that Donald Trump, then 45, attended with a group of 58 aspiring young models that September. They had travelled from around the world to compete in Elite’s Look of the Year competition, an annual event that had been running since 1983 and was already credited with launching the careers of Cindy Crawford, Helena Christensen and Stephanie Seymour. At stake was a life-changing prize: a $150,000 contract with the world’s then leading modelling agency, Elite Model Management, run by John Casablancas.

In 1992, Trump hosted the competition again. On a similarly golden evening in early September that year, another group of contestants boarded the Spirit of New York, chartered for another Elite cruise. One of the girls on the boat was Shawna Lee, then a 14-year-old from a small town outside Toronto. She recalls how the contestants were encouraged to parade downstairs, one by one, and dance for Trump, Casablancas and others.

Three decades on, a very different picture of the competition is beginning to emerge. Over the last six months, the Guardian has spoken to several dozen former Look of the Year contestants, as well as industry insiders, and obtained 12 hours of previously unseen, behind-the-scenes footage. The stories we have heard suggest that Casablancas, and some of the men in his orbit, used the contest to engage in sexual relationships with vulnerable young models. Some of these allegations amount to sexual harassment, abuse or exploitation of teenage girls; others are more accurately described as rape.
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That’s what he was selling.
 
CFordUNC said:
I don't even think Joe knew who Joe was! #AutopenSZN

In all seriousness, I've said that I don't understand why the Biden administration didn't release the files, but people on this board way smarter than me (which, admittedly, doesn't take much) had what I consider to be reasonable explanations for why they didn't. So I can't help there. And besides, Joe is gone, and the current administration owes it to the American people now to release the files.
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You overestimate how smart people on here are regarding trump. Maybe "people way more deranged than me" was a better way to say it. Seemingly zero critical thinking skills are being applied to this. And I say that fully acknowledging that I might be the one who is wrong but at least I'm trying to apply some logic to it and not blinded by hate.
 
Ramrouser said:
I don't believe it's an established fact that Trump and Epstein were "best friends." It's old news that Trump associated with Epstein for years and they were a part of the same Manhattan and Palm Beach social scene (you act as if we're just learning this). I'm sure you're not suggesting that everyone who knew or associated with Epstein is a pedo? That would include most of the Manhattan elite, the media (e.g Stephanopoulos), a lot of Hollywood, liberal billionaires, Clinton, Gates and most of the Harvard administration and faculty.

It's fair to say that all of the above knew Epstein, at some level, was a creep who liked youngish girls and have some level of guilt for merely associating with him. It's not a news flash that the uber rich and elite get away with A LOT. That doesn't, however, make each and everyone of them a pedo. I think the relevant pool of guilty folks are the ones who traveled with Epstein to the island (Clinton 28 times) and personally witnessed young girls present.
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Yeah, no, you're right, ramrouser, the fact that Trump has more pictures together with Epstein than he does with his own kids over the course of multiple decades is just a great, big, pure coincidence and definitely means they were only distant acquaintances. They weren't buddies at all, even though Trump sent a lovey-dovey letter to Epstein on this 50th birthday that said that they were in fact great buddies! Totally coincidental that they partied together or traveled together on Epstein's private plane. Who among us doesn't get tons of pictures taken at social events where we are hanging on and hugging our "distant acquiantances" with whom we definitely aren't buddies!

Come the fuck on, man. Stop playing stupid. I don't mind that you love Trump. Love Trump all you want for all I care. I mind that you're trying to pretend to be completely clueless as to how this looks for Donald Trump. You aren't clueless. You know damn well it's a bad look worth forcing the administration to come clean on. You are not so far gone in your cult like worship of Trump that you cannot see that at the very least there is plenty of smoke worth investigating, and you certainly would be screaming for such investigation where it a Dem president in question. Hell, you’ve already made up your mind that Bill Clinton is in the files and he hasn’t been president since I was in elementary school.
 
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Callatoroy said:
You overestimate how smart people on here are regarding trump. Maybe "people way more deranged than me" was a better way to say it. Seemingly zero critical thinking skills are being applied to this. And I say that fully acknowledging that I might be the one who is wrong but at least I'm trying to apply some logic to it and not blinded by hate.
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But wouldn't logic dictate that the guy who keeps changing his story might be hiding something?
 
Callatoroy said:
I have never referred to those sources, nor any source as bastions of truth, but I'm sure as hell not a sheep like most on here.
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Eh, we are all sheep of a different color of wool. Many of us refused to believe that Joe Biden was legitimately incapable of running for president again, despite what was tons of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. And it looks like y’all refuse to believe that Donald Trump could be very adversely implicated in the Epstein files, despite tons of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. Same sheep, different flock.
 
CFordUNC said:
Eh, we are all sheep of a different color of wool. Many of us refused to believe that Joe Biden was legitimately incapable of running for president again, despite what was tons of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. And it looks like y’all refuse to believe that Donald Trump could be very adversely implicated in the Epstein files, despite tons of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. Same sheep, different flock.
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Hey, in my defense , I merely thought Biden and later Harris were better choices than Trump. Still do. I'm pretty sure history will agree if there is any allowed to be written.
 
CFordUNC said:
Eh, we are all sheep of a different color of wool. Many of us refused to believe that Joe Biden was legitimately incapable of running for president again, despite what was tons of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. And it looks like y’all refuse to believe that Donald Trump could be very adversely implicated in the Epstein files, despite tons of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. Same sheep, different flock.
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was it that many, though? iirc, the only person on this board who was still on the biden train after the debate was @theel4life

most of us were shouting things along the lines of "get him the fuck off the ticket and what the fuck is wrong with jill and everyone in the admin for thinking this would work...."

the contrast between that reaction and magaland JCD'ing every goddamn thing that trump has ever done or ever will do forever is pretty fucking stark.

its the difference between a cult and not a cult.
 
4thgenheel said:
was it that many, though? iirc, the only person on this board who was still on the biden train after the debate was @theel4life

most of us were shouting things along the lines of "get him the fuck off the ticket and what the fuck is wrong with jill and everyone in the admin for thinking this would work...."

the contrast between that reaction and magaland JCD'ing every goddamn thing that trump has ever done or ever will do forever is pretty fucking stark.

its the difference between a cult and not a cult.
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Haha well I gotta come completely clean, I was definitely in the “Joe is just fine, Republicans and the media are full of shit” camp for a long, long time. I guess somewhat in my defense, the moment I saw him shuffle out on the debate stage on June 27, 2024, I changed my tune.
 
CFordUNC said:
But wouldn't logic dictate that the guy who keeps changing his story might be hiding something?
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Sure. It could be that he is trying to hide something besides diddling little girls though. This board is convinced that he is a pedo because it desperately wants it to be true. That's not logic nor intelligence. That's just brainwashed derangement.
 
CFordUNC said:
Eh, we are all sheep of a different color of wool. Many of us refused to believe that Joe Biden was legitimately incapable of running for president again, despite what was tons of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. And it looks like y’all refuse to believe that Donald Trump could be very adversely implicated in the Epstein files, despite tons of circumstantial evidence to the contrary. Same sheep, different flock.
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I'm not refusing to believe anything. But I have to ask if the files make trump look so bad why didn't biden release it. You know damn well they would have. So it is equally possible nothing like that exists. Maybe he is covering for someone else who has something on him that he doesn't want publicly known.
 
Callatoroy said:
Sure. It could be that he is trying to hide something besides diddling little girls though. This board is convinced that he is a pedo because it desperately wants it to be true. That's not logic nor intelligence. That's just brainwashed derangement.
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Is it really brainwashed derangement to wonder if the guy who has a history of being accused of various forms of sexual malfeasance by various women (including several who were under age at the time) over various decades, and the guy who palled around with the world’s most notorious child sex trafficker, has a history of possible sexual deviancy as it relates to minors?
 
Callatoroy said:
I'm not refusing to believe anything. But I have to ask if the files make trump look so bad why didn't biden release it. You know damn well they would have. So it is equally possible nothing like that exists. Maybe he is covering for someone else who has something on him that he doesn't want publicly known.
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By the same logic, if the files completely exonerate Trump, why won’t he release them? Why does his story change daily?
 
CFordUNC said:
Haha well I gotta come completely clean, I was definitely in the “Joe is just fine, Republicans and the media are full of shit” camp for a long, long time. I guess somewhat in my defense, the moment I saw him shuffle out on the debate stage on June 27, 2024, I changed my tune.
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You weren't alone. Most on here denied it for years until after the debate. Any claims to contrary are bullshit.
 
Callatoroy said:
I'm not refusing to believe anything. But I have to ask if the files make trump look so bad why didn't biden release it. You know damn well they would have. So it is equally possible nothing like that exists. Maybe he is covering for someone else who has something on him that he doesn't want publicly known.
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one might speculate that the biden admin didn't release the files because a lot of other rich, powerful, important people (democrats, some of the oligarchs who essentially own this country, israel/mossad links, etc.) would be collateral damage.

not saying that its acceptable at all, just speculating on possible reasoning.
 
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