👀 Waltz, SecDef SignalGate | Hegseth copies wife, lawyer on second Signal thread

[nycfan]

Hegseth Said to Have Shared Attack Details in Second Signal Chat​

The defense secretary sent sensitive information about strikes in Yemen to an encrypted group chat that included his wife and brother, people familiar with the matter said.

Hegseth Said to Have Shared Attack Details in Second Signal Chat

The defense secretary sent sensitive information about strikes in Yemen to an encrypted group chat that included his wife and brother, people familiar with the matter said.

www.nytimes.com

“Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared detailed information about forthcoming strikes in Yemen on March 15 in a private Signal group chat that included his wife, brother and personal lawyer, according to four people with knowledge of the chat.

Some of those people said that the information Mr. Hegseth shared on the Signal chat included the flight schedules for the F/A-18 Hornets targeting the Houthis in Yemen — essentially the same attack plans that he shared on a separate Signal chat the same day that mistakenly included the editor of The Atlantic.

Mr. Hegseth’s wife, Jennifer, a former Fox News producer, is not a Defense Department employee, but she has traveled with him overseas and drawn criticism for accompanying her husband to sensitive meetings with foreign leaders.

Mr. Hegseth’s brother Phil and Tim Parlatore, who continues to serve as his personal lawyer, both have jobs in the Pentagon, but it is not clear why either would need to know about upcoming military strikes aimed at the Houthis in Yemen. …”

“…Mr. Hegseth created the separate Signal group initially as a forum for discussing routine administrative or scheduling information, two of the people familiar with the chat said. The people said Mr. Hegseth typically did not use the chat to discuss sensitive military operations and said it did not include other cabinet-level officials.

Mr. Hegseth shared information about the Yemen strikes in the “Defense | Team Huddle” chat at roughly the same time he was putting the same details in the other Signal chat group that included senior U.S. officials and The Atlantic, the people familiar with Mr. Hegseth’s chat group said. …

… The chat also included two senior advisers to Mr. Hegseth — Dan Caldwell and Darin Selnick — who were accused of leaking unauthorized information last week and were fired. Mr. Caldwell and Mr. Selnick were among three former top Pentagon officials who proclaimed their innocence in a public statement on Saturdayin response to the leak inquiry that led to their dismissals.

… One person familiar with the chat said Mr. Hegseth’s aides had warned him a day or two before the Yemen strikes not to discuss such sensitive operational details in his Signal group chat, which, while encrypted, is not considered as secure as government channels typically used for discussing highly sensitive war planning and combat operations. …”

 

[Bobfripp]

“…Mr. Hegseth created the separate Signal group initially as a forum for discussing routine administrative or scheduling information, two of the people familiar with the chat said. The people said Mr. Hegseth typically did not use the chat to discuss sensitive military operations and said it did not include other cabinet-level officials.

Mr. Hegseth shared information about the Yemen strikes in the “Defense | Team Huddle” chat at roughly the same time he was putting the same details in the other Signal chat group that included senior U.S. officials and The Atlantic, the people familiar with Mr. Hegseth’s chat group said. …

… The chat also included two senior advisers to Mr. Hegseth — Dan Caldwell and Darin Selnick — who were accused of leaking unauthorized information last week and were fired. Mr. Caldwell and Mr. Selnick were among three former top Pentagon officials who proclaimed their innocence in a public statement on Saturdayin response to the leak inquiry that led to their dismissals.

… One person familiar with the chat said Mr. Hegseth’s aides had warned him a day or two before the Yemen strikes not to discuss such sensitive operational details in his Signal group chat, which, while encrypted, is not considered as secure as government channels typically used for discussing highly sensitive war planning and combat operations. …”

The guy can't help himself. He's still pinching himself because he's the Secretary of Defense, and is so excited he includes his wife, brother and personal lawyer in on the details. "Hey, look at me!" Complete lack of professionalism. What a douche.

 

[lawtig02]

The guy can't help himself. He's still pinching himself because he's the Secretary of Defense, and is so excited he includes his wife, brother and personal lawyer in on the details. "Hey, look at me!" Complete lack of professionalism. What a douche.

Hope he enjoyed it because he’ll be chopped very soon now. And I won’t be shocked if Rubio follows before September.

 

[Healing]

Hope he enjoyed it because he’ll be chopped very soon now. And I won’t be shocked if Rubio follows before September.

I don’t know about “very soon”. However, Hegseth is so blatantly obvious in his bumbling idiocy and small dick energy that there’s no way keeping him won’t eventually heavily drag on Trump, and Trump doesn’t have enough public good will to absorb it.

 

[BlueSmoke]

Didn't he fire four of his close aids that he brought with him because of a leak investigation? Just guessing, but I bet we can figure out who had reason to reveal this.

 

[cscott]

Hegseth Said to Have Shared Attack Details in Second Signal Chat​

The defense secretary sent sensitive information about strikes in Yemen to an encrypted group chat that included his wife and brother, people familiar with the matter said.

Hegseth Said to Have Shared Attack Details in Second Signal Chat

The defense secretary sent sensitive information about strikes in Yemen to an encrypted group chat that included his wife and brother, people familiar with the matter said.

www.nytimes.com

“Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared detailed information about forthcoming strikes in Yemen on March 15 in a private Signal group chat that included his wife, brother and personal lawyer, according to four people with knowledge of the chat.

Some of those people said that the information Mr. Hegseth shared on the Signal chat included the flight schedules for the F/A-18 Hornets targeting the Houthis in Yemen — essentially the same attack plans that he shared on a separate Signal chat the same day that mistakenly included the editor of The Atlantic.

Mr. Hegseth’s wife, Jennifer, a former Fox News producer, is not a Defense Department employee, but she has traveled with him overseas and drawn criticism for accompanying her husband to sensitive meetings with foreign leaders.

Mr. Hegseth’s brother Phil and Tim Parlatore, who continues to serve as his personal lawyer, both have jobs in the Pentagon, but it is not clear why either would need to know about upcoming military strikes aimed at the Houthis in Yemen. …”

Sounds like a national security issue.

 

[genevabuck]

The DoD has serious operational security issues under Hegseth.

 

[nycfan]

“…Ullyot, who resigned from the Pentagon last week, described a department in collapse. He accused Hegseth’s team of “falsehoods” about why three top officials were fired last week, saying they hadn’t leaked sensitive information to the media.

He chastised Pentagon officials for how they handled revelations that Hegseth shared sensitive military information in a Signal chat, and he pointed to other leaks that caused embarrassment to the administration.

The remarkable accusations by a former official — who left only two days ago and insists he still supports the Trump administration’s national security policies — underscores the infighting and upheaval that has turned increasingly public in recent weeks.

But he also found himself in the center of several controversies that added to that chaos.

Ullyot was sidelined after he defended the removal in March of a story discussing the service of baseball legend Jackie Robinson, part of a larger purge of diversity-related military webpages.

“The last month has been a full-blown meltdown at the Pentagon — and it’s becoming a real problem for the administration,” he wrote. …”

 

[JCTarheel82]

The DoD has serious operational security issues under Hegseth.

"We are currently clean on OPSEC."

 

[nycfan]

“…Ullyot, who resigned from the Pentagon last week, described a department in collapse. He accused Hegseth’s team of “falsehoods” about why three top officials were fired last week, saying they hadn’t leaked sensitive information to the media.

He chastised Pentagon officials for how they handled revelations that Hegseth shared sensitive military information in a Signal chat, and he pointed to other leaks that caused embarrassment to the administration.

The remarkable accusations by a former official — who left only two days ago and insists he still supports the Trump administration’s national security policies — underscores the infighting and upheaval that has turned increasingly public in recent weeks.

But he also found himself in the center of several controversies that added to that chaos.

Ullyot was sidelined after he defended the removal in March of a story discussing the service of baseball legend Jackie Robinson, part of a larger purge of diversity-related military webpages.

“The last month has been a full-blown meltdown at the Pentagon — and it’s becoming a real problem for the administration,” he wrote. …”

 

[nycfan]

 

[StrangePackage]

Remember how the board MAGA fucking creamed their jeans over this guy?

 

[bridgetender]

I don’t know about “very soon”. However, Hegseth is so blatantly obvious in his bumbling idiocy and small dick energy that there’s no way keeping him won’t eventually heavily drag on Trump, and Trump doesn’t have enough public good will to absorb it.

Trump doesn't care about chaos. He cares about blind loyalty.

I don't think he cares about public opinion either. I believe that they're trying to rig it from the inside to not have to worry about elections moving forward. I'm losing faith that any Republicans will follow their oath to the constitution.

 

[Healing]

Trump doesn't care about chaos. He cares about blind loyalty.

I don't think he cares about public opinion either. I believe that they're trying to rig it from the inside to not have to worry about elections moving forward. I'm losing faith that any Republicans will follow their oath to the constitution.

I mostly agree with this, however you can never assume a narcissist does not care about perception, and Trump is on the far right of the narcissism spectrum.

 

[Healing]

Remember how the board MAGA fucking creamed their jeans over this guy?

“After Pete’s calm, collected and passionate testimony today he will be confirmed as our next Secretary of Defense. He was a great lead off batter for the Trump administration. Senator Ernst just announced she would be voting for Pete.

Disagree he’s unqualified for the job. It’s not like Pete will not be without a team to run the Department. He’s there as a change agent to instill a new culture in the Pentagon.”

- Buckhead Lawyer

 

[BlueSmoke]

In Trump’s first term, he produced more national-security wins than any president in a generation or more. Trump countered Communist China’s aggression, strengthened our Indo-Pacific partnerships, began America’s long-awaited departure from Afghanistan, eliminated the ISIS caliphate, and killed its leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, among other big wins. JOHN ULLYOT POLITICO

This paragraph seems a tad delusional.

 

[superrific]

In Trump’s first term, he produced more national-security wins than any president in a generation or more. Trump countered Communist China’s aggression, strengthened our Indo-Pacific partnerships, began America’s long-awaited departure from Afghanistan, eliminated the ISIS caliphate, and killed its leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, among other big wins. JOHN ULLYOT POLITICO

This paragraph seems a tad delusional.

That piece is basically asking Trump to fire Hegseth. He fluffed Trump a couple of other times as well. Of course, he's also MAGA so it might just be another day at the office.

 

[Icky Mettle]

We all (or at least almost all of us) know how this works with the Trump administration. He appoints someone who is not competent for the job and then ends up sucking at the job. That person then gets replaced by someone less competent for the job. The bigger problem with Trump 2.0 vs. Trump 1.0 is that he’s starting with a lower bar than he even started with in his first administration.

 

[Zoo_View]

Hegseth Said to Have Shared Attack Details in Second Signal Chat​

The defense secretary sent sensitive information about strikes in Yemen to an encrypted group chat that included his wife and brother, people familiar with the matter said.

Hegseth Said to Have Shared Attack Details in Second Signal Chat

The defense secretary sent sensitive information about strikes in Yemen to an encrypted group chat that included his wife and brother, people familiar with the matter said.

www.nytimes.com

“Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared detailed information about forthcoming strikes in Yemen on March 15 in a private Signal group chat that included his wife, brother and personal lawyer, according to four people with knowledge of the chat.

Some of those people said that the information Mr. Hegseth shared on the Signal chat included the flight schedules for the F/A-18 Hornets targeting the Houthis in Yemen — essentially the same attack plans that he shared on a separate Signal chat the same day that mistakenly included the editor of The Atlantic.

Mr. Hegseth’s wife, Jennifer, a former Fox News producer, is not a Defense Department employee, but she has traveled with him overseas and drawn criticism for accompanying her husband to sensitive meetings with foreign leaders.

Mr. Hegseth’s brother Phil and Tim Parlatore, who continues to serve as his personal lawyer, both have jobs in the Pentagon, but it is not clear why either would need to know about upcoming military strikes aimed at the Houthis in Yemen. …”

I’m uncertain as to why the SecDef, much less the other yahoos on the FIRST Signal chat need to know particulars of the attack.

Authorize the attack? In this case, yes. We’re not at war with the Houthis. I’d rather civilians control new attacks.

If we’re at war? I’d rather professional military personnel determine the when and how of attacks and limit knowledge of said attacks to a tiny few before the attacks happen.

Hegseth is not a military professional.

 

[nycfan]

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