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Yes I figured that out, your parody was too spot on. I edited to ask the cult members here instead.@Kraftyheel89 , my friend ( and @UNCatTech ), what I wrote earlier is a parody poast of an amalgamation of what some of our MAGA board denizens might respond with - really one of them in particular. I put it in quotes to make it seem like someone else was saying it, but in retrospect - as you're the 2nd person I've inadvertently "hooked" with it - I probably should have done a better job of indicating to others that it was meant as such.
I assure you, I feel the same as you (and sringwal and others living on Earth Prime) do.![]()
Wonder how long it will take to clean up all the fallout from millions of unvetted people from all of the world, including the most dangerous countries on the planet as well as enemy states, being allowed and actually encouraged to pour into this country? I have the answer....it will never be cleaned up. We will pay the ongoing price forever.The standard false equivalency response is total bullshit. Trump has repeatedly shown that he has little interest in the importance of operational security and, with the exception of the Sandy Berger incident, there is no parallel to how Democrats regard it. Nature abhors a vacuum - at some point, this is going to cost us lives and treasure.
These reactions make me think that the only respite is to wait for the oncoming conflagration, whatever form it might take, and watch the GOP flail at managing the consequences. But it took us a decade and a half to clean up the Iraq mess, and five years to clean up the 2008 financial crisis, and the GOP apparently suffered no consequences for their recklessness and carelessness. I worry that the scope of the crisis is going to be horrifying in order for people to understand that this party is incapable of managing our government.
And we need some real institutional leadership if a credible alternative is going to emerge from the chaos. At this point, our institutional political leaders, academics, business leaders and law firms are acting like cowards.
BUT WHAT ABOUTWonder how long it will take to clean up all the fallout from millions of unvetted people from all of the world, including the most dangerous countries on the planet as well as enemy states, being allowed and actually encouraged to pour into this country? I have the answer....it will never be cleaned up. We will pay the ongoing price forever.
I'll take the Trump administration with all of their faults over the Biden administration, or any equivalency, any day of the week.
This was a mistake and it should be dealt with. I'll wait until a thorough investigation, including whether or not this was an approved app, whether or not it has used by previous administration for similar purposes, and whether or not this reporter was intentionally included as a way to leak information, before I pass final judgement. I know it is too much to ask for anyone on the left to do the same since this is such a great time to act as though the world is burning down and point to Trump for striking the match.
Yep — I put the original Google alert on that topic earlier in this thread …It's worth noting something Josh Marshall reported:
"But I’ve learned there’s another level of the scandal: the DOD recently sent around an “OPSEC SPECIAL BULLETIN” specifically warning about a new Signal exploit using a phishing-like strategy to add ‘linked devices’ to Signal communications and thus listen in on encrypted messages. The bulletin specifically notes the use by “Russian professional hacking groups.”
Nice try Pandemic. So, you are saying if other administrations did the same thing that it is fine? I do believe Chairman Powell (who I have great respect for as a pre-MAGAt Republican, other than Iraq WMD's) said he had a private server as well as others he knew.Wonder how long it will take to clean up all the fallout from millions of unvetted people from all of the world, including the most dangerous countries on the planet as well as enemy states, being allowed and actually encouraged to pour into this country? I have the answer....it will never be cleaned up. We will pay the ongoing price forever.
I'll take the Trump administration with all of their faults over the Biden administration, or any equivalency, any day of the week.
This was a mistake and it should be dealt with. I'll wait until a thorough investigation, including whether or not this was an approved app, whether or not it has used by previous administration for similar purposes, and whether or not this reporter was intentionally included as a way to leak information, before I pass final judgement. I know it is too much to ask for anyone on the left to do the same since this is such a great time to act as though the world is burning down and point to Trump for striking the match.
I'm not sure it matters where they were. We know they have been to Moscow before, or at least met with the Russians. It probably means their phones were hacked and the Russians can read them anywhere.Yep — I put the original Google alert on that topic earlier in this thread …
Add to the above that reporting is that Signal is blocked from being downloaded to secure government devices, we also are reasonably certain that the participants were using their personal phones.
Thanks to the Senate hearing today, we also know that Witkoff was in Moscow part of the time while included on the thread and Tulsi was overseas part of the time while participating in the thread.
Because it’s considered easier for foreign powers to hack their devices, particularly their foreign devices, when they are overseas.I'm not sure it matters where they were. We know they have been to Moscow before, or at least met with the Russians. It probably means their phones were hacked and the Russians can read them anywhere.
We know, your posting activity here repeatedly shows us you’re a goddamn fool.I'll take the Trump administration with all of their faults over the Biden administration, or any equivalency, any day of the week.
Let me see, proclaiming the biggest national security fuck up in the last 50 years was information getting out that had absolutely no effect on the success of an operation while also being able to compare it to Afghanistan, where American soldiers actually died and many more Afghanis as well as being able to use common sense to access the dangers of what was allowed to happen at the Southern Border during the Biden Administration and the threat posed to national security as a result of that intentional shitshow, is a weave of epic proportions and total Democrat homerism.I’ll be honest. I totally underestimated Pandumbic’s ability to weave his Hillary Tourette’s and his Democratic Derangement Syndrome into his defense of the Trump administration presiding over the biggest national security fuck up in 50 years. Damn good work.
100% It's yet another in a long line of "if Biden/Obama/Hillury hurr dee hurr had done it" topic. Fox and RWM would whip the base up into a frenzy and congressional Pubs would have prosecuted the department heads (that presumably Biden would have fired for a screw up of this magnitude) and then they'd impeach Biden for ever even appointing them.The standard false equivalency response is total bullshit. Trump has repeatedly shown that he has little interest in the importance of operational security and, with the exception of the Sandy Berger incident, there is no parallel to how Democrats regard it. Nature abhors a vacuum - at some point, this is going to cost us lives and treasure.
These reactions make me think that the only respite is to wait for the oncoming conflagration, whatever form it might take, and watch the GOP flail at managing the consequences. But it took us a decade and a half to clean up the Iraq mess, and five years to clean up the 2008 financial crisis, and the GOP apparently suffered no consequences for their recklessness and carelessness. I worry that the scope of the crisis is going to be horrifying in order for people to understand that this party is incapable of managing our government.
And we need some real institutional leadership if a credible alternative is going to emerge from the chaos. At this point, our institutional political leaders, academics, business leaders and law firms are acting like cowards.
Once upon a time, we welcomed people from enemy states. They were called "defectors." Now, apparently, the rule is that everyone from an enemy country is an enemy, with the exception of the leaders of those countries who butter up Trump and become his "dear friends."Wonder how long it will take to clean up all the fallout from millions of unvetted people from all of the world, including the most dangerous countries on the planet as well as enemy states, being allowed and actually encouraged to pour into this country? I have the answer....it will never be cleaned up. We will pay the ongoing price forever.
Right, but once overseas and hacked, the hack can persist. I don't know. It just seems to me that the fuckup is terrible on its own and it doesn't really matter if Witikoff was in Moscow or not.Because it’s considered easier for foreign powers to hack their devices, particularly their foreign devices, when they are overseas.
In your world, attempted murder must be OK since it didn't actually kill anyone. So too are conspiracies -- let's say, a conspiracy to fly a jet into a building -- so long as they are caught in advance.Let me see, proclaiming the biggest national security fuck up in the last 50 years was information getting out that had absolutely no effect on the success of an operation while also being able to compare it to Afghanistan, where American soldiers actually died and many more Afghanis as well as being able to use common sense to access the dangers of what was allowed to happen at the Southern Border during the Biden Administration and the threat posed to national security as a result of that intentional shitshow, is a weave of epic proportions and total Democrat homerism.
People are so worried about a leak jeopardizing American soldiers, as they should be, but where is the outrage about the leaks of ICE raids which jeopardize the lives of ICE officers? Where is the outrage when Democrat mayors release known dangerous illegal alien criminals with ICE detainers back into the community jeopardizing the lives of everyday citizens walking the streets of their city instead of turning them over to ICE to get their asses shipped out of this country? Where is any of that outrage?
You don't have an answer to those direct questions about situations which have directly led to actual deaths. You'll have some dumbass response that totally ignores all the dangers created by Biden, or whoever was running the country since we all know he damn sure wasn't, while acting like a scared little girl crying over a fuck up of the Trump Administration which resulted in nothing more that we know of than an information leak.
BUTLet me see, proclaiming the biggest national security fuck up in the last 50 years was information getting out that had absolutely no effect on the success of an operation while also being able to compare it to Afghanistan, where American soldiers actually died and many more Afghanis as well as being able to use common sense to access the dangers of what was allowed to happen at the Southern Border during the Biden Administration and the threat posed to national security as a result of that intentional shitshow, is a weave of epic proportions and total Democrat homerism.
People are so worried about a leak jeopardizing American soldiers, as they should be, but where is the outrage about the leaks of ICE raids which jeopardize the lives of ICE officers? Where is the outrage when Democrat mayors release known dangerous illegal alien criminals with ICE detainers back into the community jeopardizing the lives of everyday citizens walking the streets of their city instead of turning them over to ICE to get their asses shipped out of this country? Where is any of that outrage?
You don't have an answer to those direct questions about situations which have directly led to actual deaths. You'll have some dumbass response that totally ignores all the dangers created by Biden, or whoever was running the country since we all know he damn sure wasn't, while acting like a scared little girl crying over a fuck up of the Trump Administration which resulted in nothing more that we know of than an information leak.