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Silence Dogood said:
Corrupt convictions. Trump is keeping our streets safe and you're still complaining. TDS
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OH, thanks for reminding me. This brings up a good point I wanted to ask you, since you're the REAL legal expert around here. Isn't an appeal from a unanimous jury conviction a complaint that the jury got it wrong? And if that's the case, isn't Trump the one who's complaining that a jury of his peers unanimously got it wrong by convicting him of committing 34 felonies? And if that's the case, isn't it Trump who's complaining, and not those of us who think the jury got it right? And if THAT'S the case, isn't it YOU who are complaining on Trump's behalf, and not those of us who think the jury got it right? Thanks so much in advance for answering these questions in good faith.

Also, because I fucked up on this last week and you (properly) called me out for it --

О, спасибо, что напомнили. Это поднимает хороший вопрос, который я хотел задать вам, поскольку вы НАСТОЯЩИЙ эксперт по правовым вопросам здесь. Разве апелляция на единогласный приговор присяжных не является жалобой на то, что присяжные ошиблись? И если это так, разве Трамп не тот, кто жалуется на то, что присяжные из его коллег единогласно ошиблись, осудив его за совершение 34 тяжких преступлений? И если это так, разве не Трамп жалуется, а не те из нас, кто думает, что присяжные все сделали правильно? И если ЭТО так, разве не ВЫ жалуетесь от имени Трампа, а не те из нас, кто думает, что присяжные все сделали правильно? Заранее большое спасибо за то, что вы добросовестно ответили на эти вопросы.
 
Silence Dogood said:
Corrupt convictions. Trump is keeping our streets safe and you're still complaining. TDS
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Criminal records of Jan. 6 rioters pardoned by Trump include rape, domestic violence​



On his first day in office, President Donald Trump granted clemency to every person charged or convicted for their role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, even those convicted of violently assaulting police officers.

But Trump's pardons and commutations for people he has called "patriots" did not wipe away certain defendants' extensive criminal records or any other criminal charges they may be facing.

While many people had no criminal record prior to committing crimes on Jan. 6, NPR has identified dozens of defendants with prior convictions or pending charges for crimes including rape, sexual abuse of a minor, domestic violence, manslaughter, production of child sexual abuse material and drug trafficking.

One of those defendants, Matthew Huttle, was recently shot and killed by law enforcement in Indiana during a traffic stop just days after receiving a pardon for his role in the Capitol riot.

In 2023, Huttle pleaded guilty to entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds on Jan. 6, and received a sentence of six months in prison.

Huttle "has an extensive criminal history that demonstrates a pattern and practice of disrespecting and disobeying the rule of law, which is consistent with his actions on January 6, 2021," prosecutors said.

In one incident, "Huttle spanked his 3-year-old son so hard that he left bruises all over the child's backside and the child's neck, and the child had such extreme pain on his backside that he could not sit properly for a week," prosecutors said. "Huttle was sentenced to 2.5 years of imprisonment."

Prosecutors also noted repeated arrests for driving under the influence of alcohol.

Huttle's defense attorney attributed his criminal record to a history of "extreme alcohol abuse."

Even after Jan. 6, Huttle continued to rack up state charges in Indiana for driving offenses.

Less than a week after he received a pardon from Trump, Huttle was fatally shot in an altercation with a sheriff's deputy, according to Indiana State Police.
 
lawtig02 said:
OH, thanks for reminding me. This brings up a good point I wanted to ask you, since you're the REAL legal expert around here. Isn't an appeal from a unanimous jury conviction a complaint that the jury got it wrong? And if that's the case, isn't Trump the one who's complaining that a jury of his peers unanimously got it wrong by convicting him of committing 34 felonies? And if that's the case, isn't it Trump who's complaining, and not those of us who think the jury got it right? And if THAT'S the case, isn't it YOU who are complaining on Trump's behalf, and not those of us who think the jury got it right? Thanks so much in advance for answering these questions in good faith.

Also, because I fucked up on this last week and you (properly) called me out for it --

О, спасибо, что напомнили. Это поднимает хороший вопрос, который я хотел задать вам, поскольку вы НАСТОЯЩИЙ эксперт по правовым вопросам здесь. Разве апелляция на единогласный приговор присяжных не является жалобой на то, что присяжные ошиблись? И если это так, разве Трамп не тот, кто жалуется на то, что присяжные из его коллег единогласно ошиблись, осудив его за совершение 34 тяжких преступлений? И если это так, разве не Трамп жалуется, а не те из нас, кто думает, что присяжные все сделали правильно? И если ЭТО так, разве не ВЫ жалуетесь от имени Трампа, а не те из нас, кто думает, что присяжные все сделали правильно? Заранее большое спасибо за то, что вы добросовестно ответили на эти вопросы.
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Dear Silence,

Since you're living up to your name, I thought you might be struggling with formatting your answers to these questions. Please feel free to respond to this post instead. All you need to do is click "reply" down there in the bottom right corner, and then illuminate us with your brilliant insight. Thank you!!!

Q1. Isn't an appeal from a unanimous jury conviction a complaint that the jury got it wrong?

Silence's answer:

Q2. And if that's the case, isn't Trump the one who's complaining that a jury of his peers unanimously got it wrong by convicting him of committing 34 felonies?

Silence's answer:

Q3. And if that's the case, isn't it Trump who's complaining, and not those of us who think the jury got it right?

Silence's answer:

Q4. And if THAT'S the case, isn't it YOU who are complaining on Trump's behalf, and not those of us who think the jury got it right?

Silence's answer:

Thanks so much in advance for answering these questions in good faith.
 
milom98 said:
It is real. When I first caught a glimpse of the signs behind a CNN reporter at the White House this morning, I thought wtf are there realtor signs on the White House lawn. And then I thought maybe Trump was literally trying to sell the White House. lol

Turns out it was something even more ridiculous.
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Just more evidence that this entire administration is, among many other awful things, simply a massive trolling operation to own the libs. Doesn't matter how destructive (or self-destructive) the policies and decisions are, as long as they're owning the libs they'll laugh all the way to the unemployment line.
 
Silence Dogood said:
Enforcing immigration laws doesn't make me a bad person
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No, but you being gleeful at the thought of other people's life being turned upside down is.

I've wrote on this thread multiple times that sometimes things that happen to people, like their business being impacted by unnecessary tariffs or lack of trade policy by the administration one voted for, are bad and are in some way related to their own choices, but I've never been gleeful of the what these people have to deal with.

You are a bad person because you are getting joy out of the misfortunes of other's. But it's understandable as your orange leader commends and encourages this. He loves the wedge he places between people, he loves seeing people laughing at other's problems, it's part of his personality disorder and he has shared it with all of his followers.

These are examples of the issues with the maga cult. The idea that they are ok with other's being targeted and suffering as long as it's not them personally is disturbing.

We've witnessed so much of this from the right... I was ok with deportations as long as it's the bad people and doesn't impact me, coming from the person whose wife was just deported, etc.
 
UNCatTech said:
No, but you being gleeful at the thought of other people's life being turned upside down is.

I've wrote on this thread multiple times that sometimes things that happen to people, like their business being impacted by unnecessary tariffs or lack of trade policy by the administration one voted for, are bad and are in some way related to their own choices, but I've never been gleeful of the what these people have to deal with.

You are a bad person because you are getting joy out of the misfortunes of other's. But it's understandable as your orange leader commends and encourages this. He loves the wedge he places between people, he loves seeing people laughing at other's problems, it's part of his personality disorder and he has shared it with all of his followers.

These are examples of the issues with the maga cult. The idea that they are ok with other's being targeted and suffering as long as it's not them personally is disturbing.

We've witnessed so much of this from the right... I was ok with deportations as long as it's the bad people and doesn't impact me, coming from the person whose wife was just deported, etc.
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You hear yourself? The left loves mocking Trump and wishes bad things against him. Can't have it both ways
 
Silence Dogood said:
You hear yourself? The left loves mocking Trump and wishes bad things against him. Can't have it both ways
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I would gladly take any random citizen of the world, including those who have immigrated to America without documentation, to be the president of the United States over Donald Trump. At some point, you'll realize you've cast your lot with one of the 0.000000000001% of humans who could not keep America great as we head into our 250th year. Unless, of course, that's what you and your FSB comrades have been hoping for all along.
 
Silence Dogood said:
You hear yourself? The left loves mocking Trump and wishes bad things against him. Can't have it both ways
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You are so confused. We're talking about people here, not trump. We're not talking about mocking, we're talking about getting hot out of others misfortunes.

STOP distorting what I'm saying. You know your false dichotomy isn't relative in this conversation.

You're so sad that you would try to conflate these two dissimilar topics.

You are a sad person for wanting to justify your inhumanity.
 
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