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FAFO
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You alter your arguments like you alter Trump's credentials.
Otoh, since I worship at the altar of truth, can you explain why he had his lawyers threaten to sue any school or testing agency that revealed any of his grades or scores? That doesn't seem like the typical self aggrandizing behavior of a raving egomaniac like Trump unless they were so pitiful not even he could pretend about them.
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ChileG
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He didn’t get into the business school and got an economics degree.
What do you think his economics professors at Penn teach their classes about tariffs? Or trade deficits? Or the relative strength of the dollar against other currencies? Or free markets and trade?
Is having a degree worth anything if you didn’t learn anything?
TangledUpInBlue06
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Can you paint a picture of what the Golden Age will look like so we know whether or not it has arrived?
Will household income go up and if so by how much? Will retail prices come down and if so by how much? Will GDP grow and if so by how much? Will unemployment drop and if so by how much?
Just trying to put down some objective markers so you can throw it in all of our faces when we hit them.
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Someone claiming to be a UNC grad with a law degree and demonstrating profoundly poor understanding of law and basic economics is pitiable. What’s more pitiable is to troll, if those credentials are real. What’s yet more pitiable is to have those credentials and buy into maga and North Korean level propaganda, like “Golden Age”. Whatever the explanation , pitiable. Good Germans and goosestepppers unite!
ChileG
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No, Trump has signaled that he is willing to call the whole thing off as long as they both agree to claim they made a deal so the MAGAs can cheer their dear leader for “fixing” things, when all he did was stop doing what everyone told him not to do in the first place.
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One would think that an educated man, such as yourself, would want smart educated leaders?
Trump is a nepo baby whose had everything handed to him without merit (thought you guys required merit in everything) and has still managed to fail in so many ways.
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Just having some fun Francis as I know "Golden Age" will trigger this board. No need to be so serious all of the time and immediately go to the NAZIs when we disagree.
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Bit of an overstatement don't you think CatTech? Trump could have just lived off his inheritance as a trust fund baby.
Instead, he did build numerous businesses on his own and managed to get elected President of the United States on, at least, two occasions.
What business did he ever build that was successful?
The same lot of cranks promised that Britain's GOLDEN AGE would start in 2016. Nine years later...
- 65% of Brits believe Brexit was a mistake
- Annual growth has been 1.3% vs 1.6% in other G7 countries
- The average Brit has lost approximately $1,000 per capita in income as a result of Brexit.
Example #347,572 why mediocre lawyers make bad economists.
lawtig02
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You mean they're willing to negotiate by reducing their responsive tariffs if we drop our tariffs, which will put us back in roughly the same position, maybe a little worse, than we were before your guy started this stupid trade war? That's what "working" looks like to you?
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I’m not aiming this at Ramrouser, but as a lawyer who practices in NC, I know a lot of UNC grads with law degrees, and while most are quite smart, there are also some who are absolute morons. I wouldn’t let them represent me pro bono on a seatbelt violation ticket.
There's nothing worse than a dumb lawyer who thinks he's smart.
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You don’t have an argument. You just have an all-purpose knee-jerk impulse to defend Trump in the face of overwhelming incompetence, stupidity and corruption.
Clearly it's because Donald Trump is all about humility. Probably just doesn't want his straight As to intimidate others.
You poor, misguided soul. You really do believe that don't you. I'll pray for you.
superrific
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All of his businesses failed. If Trump had just lived off his inheritance, he'd be significantly richer.
superrific
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Define work. Because the first problem with Trump's tariff bullshit is that it has no coherent goal. If the goal is to cause industry to come back to the US, he's done it completely wrong. The problem isn't trade deals; it's American industrial policy.
You tell me how it helps American manufacturing for Trump to be cancelling renewable energy credits, solar power research. Trump hates wind for such irrational reasons. Those are important manufacturing industries, and Trump is destroying them, not building them. Because he wants coal instead. Building a bridge to the 19th century. Coal, by the way, is such a harmful fuel that mining and burning it for electricity makes us poorer when you factor in the health impact.
If you want to bring manufacturing to the US, the way to do it is the CHIPS Act and the Build Back Better program (I guess the achievement there was the IRA). Trump doesn't understand that industry can't relocate here because it can't function here, because the infrastructure doesn't exist. And the reason it doesn't exist is that we've relied so heavily on the private sector to build out everything. Well, guess what? Individual companies working on their own generally cannot build an industrial system. That's been shown throughout history.
So what do you mean by tariffs "working"? It's not going to be bringing manufacturing back to the US. Will they raise revenue? No, not as currently constructed. Indeed, the tariffs have probably cost the US hundreds of billions of dollars -- tens at least -- because they have reduced Americans' incomes and thus the taxes they will owe, while generating no revenue because you can't tariff products that never arrive.
Any other thoughts on what it might mean for the tariffs to work?
Also, tariffs have never worked as an economic policy. Argentina tried it. It was literally the downfall of their economy. Actually, all through South America countries decided to go it alone, trying to make everything themselves instead of importing. That's why they basically all went bankrupt in the 1980s, and they very nearly took out some big US banks.