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Ramrouser said:
What is DUE PROCESS for a foreign gangbanger who regularly beats his wife? Is it a jury trial in federal district court. No, It’s some immigration clerk confirming he’s an illegal a lien.
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What is due proess for a guy who has a Court order to not deport him? After hearing all the allegations you have placed here
 
The Kilmar thing aside, I don't understand how the gay barber deportation thing has just been lost to history, apparently. Well, yes, I do, because Democrats suck at messaging.

Whatever the case, the gay barber thing makes the point about Kilmar, whatever he may or may not be, stronger.

The fact that the Trump administration has just abandoned due process.

And there's apparently American citizens involved now too. Small children. But still citizens.

The point, obviously to us who give a damn, is that you can't just deport someone. Even if they're a known "gangbanger" illegal. You have to have due process. Because, otherwise, an asshole can just deport whomever. Including American citizens. Maybe Ramrouser will run afoul in time? And get himself sent to El Salvador? He's banking on that not being the case, and it most likely won't be, but that doesn't matter.

For all I know, Ramrouser may be a gangbanger. He may even be illegally in this country. Do any of us know?
 
Ramrouser said:
Based upon what the Administration (not Trump himself) is saying I think we may do better with India and perhaps China with the rest being a relative wash but I take your point about whether it's worth it.
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Because I feel that I should investigate and not simply accept things that fit my worldview, I've listened to several interviews with people who fully support using tariffs as a tool and who made a compelling argument for why we should be working on the relationship with China. All of them have been willing to agree that trump is doing it wrong. To different extents they even admitted that he is doing damage that could take decades to fix.

See, I'm not against every position of the republican party, I've actually voted for more pubs than dems in my lifetime. But trump is a buffoon, and he is hurting everyone.
 
Ramrouser said:
What is DUE PROCESS for a foreign gangbanger who regularly beats his wife? Is it a jury trial in federal district court. No, It’s some immigration clerk confirming he’s an illegal a lien.
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At a minimum, it is not violating an express court order not to do something. It is also not deporting anyone to a foreign jail for an indefinite sentence. If you are going to deport someone, you don't deport him to a jail -- unless the person is subject to an extradition order.

Typically, the due process owed to any immigrant is an appearance in front of an immigration judge (who is an Article II employee, not an Article III employee) with the right of appeal to some type of legally trained panel. That is the process we have followed since 1940.
 
You’re in a cult if you think illegal gangbangers are afforded the same due process as US citizens. If so,it would take fifteen years to get rid of these squatters. Is that what you’re going for? It sure seems like it given the way Biden just let them all in while claiming the border was closed.

Garcia had 2 deportation orders btw.
 
Ramrouser said:
You’re in a cult if you think illegal gangbangers are afforded the same due process as US citizens. If so,it would take fifteen years to get rid of these squatters. Is that what you’re going for? It sure seems like it given the way Biden just let them all in while claiming the border was closed.

Garcia had 2 deportation orders btw.
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Your first paragraph is pathetic. You know better. So do better.

As to the second point, we hear that a lot. Link to them, please. And let us know if they came before or after the order that stayed his removal to El Salvador. Then tell us, as a lawyer, which is controlling.
 
Ramrouser said:
You’re in a cult if you think illegal gangbangers are afforded the same due process as US citizens. If so,it would take fifteen years to get rid of these squatters. Is that what you’re going for? It sure seems like it given the way Biden just let them all in while claiming the border was closed.

Garcia had 2 deportation orders btw.
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As a lawyer one would think that you, of all professions, would understand the importance of due process.

If the government can skip due process based on " we say this person is bad", them what stops them from doing that to you?
 
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Three months in, it’s become abundantly clear that it’s not just federal Washington-based programs and overseas aid that are feeling the wrath of Elon Musk and DOGE. The cuts are hitting home in the reddest parts of the country, and Republican elected officials are starting to push back.

Abrupt cuts at AmeriCorps this week have landed hard in deep red states with high poverty rates like West Virginia, Mississippi and Alabama, where national service programs have long-filled gaps in education, disaster response and job training.

On Friday, AmeriCorps, at the behest of DOGE, unexpectedly terminated nearly $400 million in grants, more than 40 percent of the agency’s grant funds. The move affects more than 1,000 grantees and sidelines more than 32,000 AmeriCorps members nationwide.


Commissions in all 50 states were notified of terminations. In some states, including Alabama and Wyoming, the entire grant portfolio was axed.
 
altmin said:

Three months in, it’s become abundantly clear that it’s not just federal Washington-based programs and overseas aid that are feeling the wrath of Elon Musk and DOGE. The cuts are hitting home in the reddest parts of the country, and Republican elected officials are starting to push back.

Abrupt cuts at AmeriCorps this week have landed hard in deep red states with high poverty rates like West Virginia, Mississippi and Alabama, where national service programs have long-filled gaps in education, disaster response and job training.

On Friday, AmeriCorps, at the behest of DOGE, unexpectedly terminated nearly $400 million in grants, more than 40 percent of the agency’s grant funds. The move affects more than 1,000 grantees and sidelines more than 32,000 AmeriCorps members nationwide.


Commissions in all 50 states were notified of terminations. In some states, including Alabama and Wyoming, the entire grant portfolio was axed.
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Have the day you voted for
 
Jon Stewart's weekly podcast they interviewed Andy Beshear this week.

He makes a lot of sense.

He also gave credit to FEMA's response in KY.
 
Kingpin said:
I really like Bashear and wish he would run for President. Had be been allowed to do so in 2024 (Biden limiting himself early to 1 term), I believe he would be president today beating Trump
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Yes, Biden not stepping down is a huge variable in where we are now.

He and Josh Shapiro can run on the getting shit down platform. They both seem to have a good track record in this area.
 
UNCatTech said:
Yes, Biden not stepping down is a huge variable in where we are now.

He and Josh Shapiro can run on the getting shit down platform. They both seem to have a good track record in this area.
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I like Shapiro and Buttigeg as well, but Bashear does not carry the political handicaps each of them does.
 
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