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Molotov Mocktail said:
Someone with a better memory than me might be able to answer this. Has even one person talked about in this thread said that they regret their vote and wouldn’t vote for trump if they could do it again?

It might be a me problem but I feel absolutely nothing for these people and hope the FAFO continues to find them.
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Not only this thread but I don't think many who voted for him have any regrets. This is what they voted for. If the election were done over today he'd still win.
 
DantesHair said:
Would love to know how many ICers rail on immigration but want Luka Bogavic to get his student visa expedited.

For that matter, is this where we put information about Luka Bogavic joining UNCs basketball team but potentially not getting a student visa? Or would that be more appropriate in the “Student Visa” thread?
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He's white enough to sneak in with the Afrikaners claiming genocide in So Africa. There actually was genocide in the Balkan's 30 yrs ago, so he only needs to fudge on the numbers - done.
 
Terry can get a night time gig at MSNBC - replacing Jen Psaki whose show was recently cancelled. No need to hide his extreme left wing bias.
 
Ramrouser said:
Terry can get a night time gig at MSNBC - replacing Jen Psaki whose show was recently cancelled. No need to hide his extreme left wing bias.
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Why would this bother you, no one to the right hides their right wing bias and most are not as close to center as they want to pretend.

Maybe do a comparison of the extreme. Right wing is the proud boys, white nationalist and other racist, bigoted groups. Left wing are climate activists and people standing up for marginalized groups. Right people creating marginalized groups. I know where I would rather stand.

And then there's this administration. Their bias is on another level, they simply lie about absolutely everything.
 
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Ramrouser said:
No, this is example 3456 of a so called unbiased mainstream journalist being unmasked (by himself) as a left wing activist. Moran proved correct every critique the Rs have of the legacy media.

The media has no credibility.
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Are you saying what Moran said about Miller wasn't true or that Miller is not a public figure? What is there to criticize about an honest journalist? Just because they are extinct on the right isn't any reason to to value them when and where they appear.

Maybe it's like a cat allergy and they break out in hives around honest people. That would explain a lot.
 
milom98 said:
Too bad he didn't work at Fox News or he could have a nice cabinet position waiting for him in the Trump administration.
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Yeah, we've reached the point at which if you criticize Trump or one of his minions, like Miller, you get fired, even from a supposedly "mainstream" legacy media outlet. But if you're a right-wing talking head on Fox you get promoted to a cabinet position. Kind of hard for Trumpers to complain about the "left wing" media when it is so weak that they're willing to fire reporters who dare to make accurate criticisms of a Trump minion, but right-wing media is so powerful that members of it now hold high posts in Dear Leader's administration. The right-wing critique of media has become completely toothless (not that it wasn't already) - despite their claims they are now the dominant media faction, not liberals (not that they ever really were, but that's a topic for a different thread).
 
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Ramrouser said:
No, this is example 3456 of a so called unbiased mainstream journalist being unmasked (by himself) as a left wing activist. Moran proved correct every critique the Rs have of the legacy media.

The media has no credibility.
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Wrong, this is an example only because you, as most, fail to authentically judge your news sources. They all have some level of bias. The flagship for the right is Fox News, they don't even try to hide their bias. CNN tries so hard to look centrist and unbiased that they let people in the trumpoaphere lie without rebuke. MSNBC is biased to the left.

Why are you pretending that bias is something that only exist on one side?

Additionally it was his opinion, people have those and he was pretty much correct, Steven Miller is a piece of shit, racist bigot that would love to have a right wing dictator in the US.
 
We may be in agreement in that we're now in the era of yellow journalism where all media sources are biased with a distinct point of view. The legacy media over the last decades thoroughly destroyed the era of Cronkite and objective journalism. No one thinks the legacy media is objective.

I (and almost all on the right) consider all of legacy media to be left wing:

NYT, Wash Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, AP, Axios, Politico, Reuters, etc.

We have Fox, OAN, Newsmax and some random podcasters.
 
Ramrouser said:
We may be in agreement in that we're now in the era of yellow journalism where all media sources are biased with a distinct point of view. The legacy media over the last decades thoroughly destroyed the era of Cronkite and objective journalism. No one thinks the legacy media is objective.

I (and almost all on the right) consider all of legacy media to be left wing:

NYT, Wash Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, AP, Axios, Politico, Reuters, etc.

We have Fox, OAN, Newsmax and some random podcasters.
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That's because you believe the lies from the right. Everybody ,including them, admit that they do lie.
 
Ramrouser said:
We may be in agreement in that we're now in the era of yellow journalism where all media sources are biased with a distinct point of view. The legacy media over the last decades thoroughly destroyed the era of Cronkite and objective journalism. No one thinks the legacy media is objective.

I (and almost all on the right) consider all of legacy media to be left wing:

NYT, Wash Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, AP, Axios, Politico, Reuters, etc.

We have Fox, OAN, Newsmax and some random podcasters.
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Using your list, "left wing" includes any mainstream media source not too intimidated to publish news inconsistent with Trump's worldview and his agenda.
The facts and truth don't belong to the right or the left. They exist independently. Just because you don't like the news and it is at odds with your opinions doesn't make it biased.
 
Ramrouser said:
No, this is example 3456 of a so called unbiased mainstream journalist being unmasked (by himself) as a left wing activist. Moran proved correct every critique the Rs have of the legacy media.

The media has no credibility.
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I'm sorry, are you taking the side of Dukie Stephen Miller -- one of the most hateful and horrible Americans we've seen in fifty years, a true psychopath -- over a respected journalist?

Here's the quote: "Miller is a man who is richly endowed with the capacity for hatred. He's a world class hater. You can see this just by looking at him because you can see that his hatreds are his spiritual nourishment. He eats his hate."

That seems 100% true. Are you seriously debating whether Stephen Miller -- a man who ran for high school president on the program of firing the school's Asian housekeeping staff -- is a world-class hater? What exactly did Moran say that is so horribly biased.

You know your head has been completely fucked when you are taking the side of the worst Dukie in the world.
 
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