Farewell Billy Packer: Feb. 25, 1940 -- Jan. 26, 2023

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Originally composed on the day that his passing was announced...

Farewell Billy Packer (January 26, 2023) — He’s “‘Sailin’ With The Pilot” now I reckon. He was an ornery, biased cuss but nobody, save perhaps that other ornery, biased cuss, Bones McKinney, knew Atlantic Coast Conference basketball, and the culture of it, like Billy Packer. Certainly the heyday of ACC Basketball Broadcasting coincided with Packer’s team-up with play-by-play man, Jim Thacker. The combination of their voices - and I can hear it now ringing in my fondest memories - signaled “Throwdown” on so many evenings and weekends throughout the winter months in the 1970s.

Listen here -- and believe me, this is a real treat.





Packer and Thacker steered us through the league in those days - and throw in McKinney for good measure. For me these voices marked my own high school playing days and college fandom. Sure I listened to Woody Durham - in fact there were times when Packer so infuriated me that I turned down the sound and turned up the radio. I even listened to both at once on occasion. Today I mostly mute TV ‘announcers’ but in those days I was always drawn back to Packer because, while his sentiments regarding certain schools, players, and coaches were only thinly veiled, he did not babble but rather talked hoops and history. Neither Packer, nor Thacker, droned on about hair dye, tie dye, or past glories. In fact, if you didn’t do your homework you might even miss that Packer was a stalwart shooting guard for a Wake Forest squad that played in the Final Four in 1962.

Eventually Packer went nation-wide, as did the ACC. With that we lost a good deal of our regional rivalries and that sense that what went on in arenas named Joel, Reynolds, Cameron, and Carmichael represented the very Center of the College Basketball World. As a boy I hardly pondered national championships - first thing’s first after all - the ACC Tournament in GREENSBORO was the top of the mountain. That was why you wore your gear to school or work or yes, even to church. With the intrusion of Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, and even Florida State - here in North Carolina many lost some focus. I lament that thinning of the Blood Rivalries to the point of ‘every once in a while’ even missing Sub Carolina’s role in the league.

I certainly didn’t ‘like’ Billy Packer but I damn sure respected him. Billy Packer understood The Big Four and he knew every bump, hairpin curve, and detour on Tobacco Road and he, Thacker, and Bones were our learned guides. Give that YouTube linked above a listen and take just a moment to remember. Adios Packer, you were understandably and perfectly partisan.
 
Originally composed on the day that his passing was announced...

Farewell Billy Packer (January 26, 2023) — He’s “‘Sailin’ With The Pilot” now I reckon. He was an ornery, biased cuss but nobody, save perhaps that other ornery, biased cuss, Bones McKinney, knew Atlantic Coast Conference basketball, and the culture of it, like Billy Packer. Certainly the heyday of ACC Basketball Broadcasting coincided with Packer’s team-up with play-by-play man, Jim Thacker. The combination of their voices - and I can hear it now ringing in my fondest memories - signaled “Throwdown” on so many evenings and weekends throughout the winter months in the 1970s.

Listen here -- and believe me, this is a real treat.





Packer and Thacker steered us through the league in those days - and throw in McKinney for good measure. For me these voices marked my own high school playing days and college fandom. Sure I listened to Woody Durham - in fact there were times when Packer so infuriated me that I turned down the sound and turned up the radio. I even listened to both at once on occasion. Today I mostly mute TV ‘announcers’ but in those days I was always drawn back to Packer because, while his sentiments regarding certain schools, players, and coaches were only thinly veiled, he did not babble but rather talked hoops and history. Neither Packer, nor Thacker, droned on about hair dye, tie dye, or past glories. In fact, if you didn’t do your homework you might even miss that Packer was a stalwart shooting guard for a Wake Forest squad that played in the Final Four in 1962.

Eventually Packer went nation-wide, as did the ACC. With that we lost a good deal of our regional rivalries and that sense that what went on in arenas named Joel, Reynolds, Cameron, and Carmichael represented the very Center of the College Basketball World. As a boy I hardly pondered national championships - first thing’s first after all - the ACC Tournament in GREENSBORO was the top of the mountain. That was why you wore your gear to school or work or yes, even to church. With the intrusion of Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, and even Florida State - here in North Carolina many lost some focus. I lament that thinning of the Blood Rivalries to the point of ‘every once in a while’ even missing Sub Carolina’s role in the league.

I certainly didn’t ‘like’ Billy Packer but I damn sure respected him. Billy Packer understood The Big Four and he knew every bump, hairpin curve, and detour on Tobacco Road and he, Thacker, and Bones were our learned guides. Give that YouTube linked above a listen and take just a moment to remember. Adios Packer, you were understandably and perfectly partisan.

Packer could be infuriating.

I’d rather listen to Billy Packer as the color guy for 10,000 hours than Dick Vitale for 1 minute.

Packer’s at least talking about the game in front of him…..the game on the TV broadcast.
 
Billy Packer, one of those polarizing announcers of yore who you tuned in almost in hope of him saying something that would make you mad. Seemed like every ACC game was played on Tuesday and Thursday evenings and Saturday afternoons. Even if the Heels game wasn't one being broadcast, I would watch the game that was broadcast and listen to the Heels game on my transistor radio with an ear piece. That would always drive my Dad crazy because he said watching one game and listening to another would erode my ability to concentrate on one thing. But because we were watching the game at my grandparents house--because we didn't have a TV--my grandfather would tell my Dad to hush-up and claimed I was just practicing multitasking and that would be a valuable skill for me to have as an adult. During the ACC Tournament, male teachers would bring a portable TV from home and have the early round afternoon games on with the sound turned down, just so no one would try to sneak a transistor radio with an ear piece into class.

And then there was the infamous ACC Tournament game where State beat Duke 12 to 10. The TV broadcast took breaks during the action to run commercials. When the live action came back, the announcer would say something like, "While you were away, Biedenbach passed the ball to Williford and Williford passed it back to Biedenbach." Mesmerising stuff, and that it was Duke and State caught-up in that mess made it even better. Anyway, the next night Carolina beat State by 39 points. For the rest of the week Carolina fans would ask State fans, "How old is Jack Benny? Oh, now I remember, he is 39."

ETA: I would bet money I couldn't affford to lose that I have seen far fewer live games involving ACC teams than the average poster on this board. But never once when I was at a live game when a great play occur did I think, "I wonder what Billy Packer said about this play?"
 
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RIP. He could be very annoying, always seemed a bit cynical and joyless… but he was one of the most resonant sports voices from my youth, for some of my best sports memories.
 
Have told this before, but I’ll always remember him fondly due to the time I met him at the Harris Teeter about 16 years ago.
I was with my young daughter (maybe not quite a year old), and we were both at the deli counter waiting.
He started making faces and stuff like many old grandfathers do to babies and making her laugh. It was very endearing.
 
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Have told this before, but I’ll always remember him fondly due to the time I met him at the Harris Teeter about 16 years ago.
I was with my young daughter (maybe not quite a year old), and we were both at the deli counter waiting.
He started making faces and stuff like may old grandfathers do to babies and making her laugh. It was very endearing.


Yet...Life is pain.
 
I initially didn’t mind Billy Packer, as I really didn’t know anything different. As I got older, he began to irritate me as he always seemed to second guess coaches and players and generally sounded miserable about everything.

I did appreciate his “no frills” style, however. He never tried to push stupid catchphrases on us and never resorted to contrived over-animation. I appreciate the fact that he never tried to get anyone to like him, he just focused on the game.
 
the guy was a miserable shitbird who almost never gave carolina a fair shake.

his commentary in the wake (no pun intended) of gerald henderthug breaking hansbrough's nose was particularly absurd and abhorrent. blaming Roy and Hansbrough and claiming that henderson and his bad intentions were the real victim. disgusting BS.


 
Wasn’t his exclamation that “this one is ovah” fairly early in the 2008 Kansas-UNC Final Four game— when Kansas got a 28-point lead— the straw that broke the camel’s back and got him fired? The one thing you can’t do as an announcer is say something to make the viewers change the channel or turn off the TV before the game officially ends (or, most importantly,before the sponsors get that last spot of ads in).
 
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I initially didn’t mind Billy Packer, as I really didn’t know anything different. As I got older, he began to irritate me as he always seemed to second guess coaches and players and generally sounded miserable about everything.

I did appreciate his “no frills” style, however. He never tried to push stupid catchphrases on us and never resorted to contrived over-animation. I appreciate the fact that he never tried to get anyone to like him, he just focused on the game.


I was trying to, albeit perhaps too subtly, in the opening post, that Packer was a much better announcer when working with Thacker and McKinney -- when he left them and went national he was more often than not an intolerable prick.
 
Wasn’t his exclamation that “this one is ovah” fairly early in the 2008 Kansas-UNC Final Four game— when Kansas got a 28-point lead— the straw that broke the camel’s back and got him fired? The one thing you can’t do as an announcer is say something to make the viewers change the channel or turn off the TV before the game officially ends (or, most importantly,before the sponsors get that last spot of ads in).
idk about it getting him fired but it's a perfect microcosm of his feelings toward carolina - he hated us so, so much that he flagrantly violated one of the most important and basic rules of his job.
 
idk about it getting him fired but it's a perfect microcosm of his feelings toward carolina - he hated us so, so much that he flagrantly violated one of the most important and basic rules of his job.
He hated everyone and everything so, so much. Carolina fans just assumed he hated us more. He didn’t. He was negative all the time.
 
He hated everyone and everything so, so much. Carolina fans just assumed he hated us more. He didn’t. He was negative all the time.
being negative all of the time and having some special hate for carolina aren't mutually exclusive.

his absurd reaction to the henderson flagrant on hansbrough was literally national news. read those two pieces i linked above. it was ridiculous.
 
I was trying to, albeit perhaps too subtly, in the opening post, that Packer was a much better announcer when working with Thacker and McKinney -- when he left them and went national he was more often than not an intolerable prick.
I think Packer being paired with Al McGuire on national broadcasts contributed to bringing the anger out in in Billy. The why is that Al admitted to NEVER watching college basketball. The only games Al watched were the ones he called. That pissed Billy off.
 
Billy certainly got "crustier" as he aged, and became a bit of a 'get off my lawn' caricature.

I am a Cincinnati Reds fan, and much the same happened with Marty Brennaman (Tar Heel)... after Joe Nuxhall retired Marty sort of just got mean and angry a lot. Given the decades of losing baseball he was calling I can't say that I blame him, but by the end it was just totally joyless.
 
“And look who’s guarding him, the shutdown man” as Felton sticks a 3 in D. Williams face 1 second later. He recovered from that about as well as could be expected but man that was a UNC fans middle finger to Packer for all the years of negativity.

I still thought he was good at his job though and preferred him over many others.
 
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