Florida State Biorhythms, 7 pm in FLA

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Calheel said:
Huge win for the Heels. Next game should be a laugher. Then an always tough environment at Cassel. Assuming we can win those two, then we have two shots at the NCAAT -- either beat Duke at home or beat Clemson/Louisville in the ACCT.
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So winning an “extra” game in the ACCT wouldn’t matter at all you think?

You’re saying a quality win is really all that will matter.

In that case I guess we hope for the bye.
 
Bigs23 said:
So winning an “extra” game in the ACCT wouldn’t matter at all you think?

You’re saying a quality win is really all that will matter.

In that case I guess we hope for the bye.
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The problem with the double bye is it means we match up against Duke, which would be a much harder game than Louisville or Clemson. Plus, if we lose to Duke in the regular season finale, that means we would have at least seven losses. That means Wake and SMU, would both have to lose at least twice more, which seems unlikely. And not sure who wins a three-way tie with us and Wake/SMU. In any event, we'd probably be better at 6 than 4 if we need to win one more Quad 1 game.
 
I quit looking at the +/- on a per game basis. A one game snap-shot seems to be misleading in the bigger picture of how a player may or may not positively or negatively impact a team moving forward.

As far as ACCT - I think a single bye may be better than a double bye. No concrete reason, just a hunch.
 
Really good team effort and maybe their best sustained stretch of bball since early in the year

That isn’t saying a lot but could’ve easily mailed it in

The Stanford loss and Wake no show might be the 2 we look at if/when this team ultimately misses the NCAAT
 
Heelsandeers said:
Really good team effort and maybe their best sustained stretch of bball since early in the year

That isn’t saying a lot but could’ve easily mailed it in

The Stanford loss and Wake no show might be the 2 we look at if/when this team ultimately misses the NCAAT
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The Michigan State loss is big, as well, because we had good chances to win that game but didn’t do so.
 
So they are pretty much going to have to win the rest of the games, including Duke, or win the ACC tournament to get in. They just don't have enough quality wins compared to other teams on the bubble.
 
StoneColdHeel said:
So they are pretty much going to have to win the rest of the games, including Duke, or win the ACC tournament to get in. They just don't have enough quality wins compared to other teams on the bubble.
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It's not quite that dire. I would guess the minimum we need to make it is to win the next 2 games on our schedule, look competent against dook, and then win 2 games in the ACCT (including one over Clemson/Louisville). If we do that, I'm reasonably confident we'd get in (although we might very well be in Dayton).
 
i think they can beat miami and vt....lost to dook then win a couple in acc tourney and get a bid depending upon how the bubble busting goes with other teams. we can beat louisville and or clemson. no way we beating dook unless superman king trump suits up for us
 
StoneColdHeel said:
So they are pretty much going to have to win the rest of the games, including Duke, or win the ACC tournament to get in. They just don't have enough quality wins compared to other teams on the bubble.
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Perhaps. But I think there is a chance we make it if (big IF) we:
  • Win out except a close loss at dook (close meaning less than double digits)
  • Win 2 games in ACCT minimum
  • A couple other bubble teams get bumped off
If any of those 3 don’t happen, we may be toast. I just don’t see us beating dook and I also don’t see us winning the ACCT (which would probably mean we beat dook)
 
Bigs23 said:
Small sample size. +/- is much more useful as a cumulative measure.
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Season totals
Cadeau 823 minutes, +109, +0.132/min
Davis 1005 minutes, +127, +0.126/min
Jackson 727 minutes, -3, -0.001/min
Lubin 520 minutes, +85, +0.163/min
Powell 712 minutes, +66, +0.093/min
Trimble 776 minutes, +86, +0.111/min
Washington 482 minutes, +53, +0.110/min
Withers 445 minutes, +56, +0.126/min
 
SnoopRob said:
It's not quite that dire. I would guess the minimum we need to make it is to win the next 2 games on our schedule, look competent against dook, and then win 2 games in the ACCT (including one over Clemson/Louisville). If we do that, I'm reasonably confident we'd get in (although we might very well be in Dayton).
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I think they have to get at least one quad 1 win, not lose to VaTech or Miami, and play Duke close (or win for the q1 win). Without that, it’s going to be hard to justify putting them in over others.
 
Centerpiece said:
I quit looking at the +/- on a per game basis. A one game snap-shot seems to be misleading in the bigger picture of how a player may or may not positively or negatively impact a team moving forward.

As far as ACCT - I think a single bye may be better than a double bye. No concrete reason, just a hunch.
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Season totals
Cadeau 823 minutes, +109, +0.132/min
Davis 1005 minutes, +127, +0.126/min
Jackson 727 minutes, -3, -0.001/min
Lubin 520 minutes, +85, +0.163/min
Powell 712 minutes, +66, +0.093/min
Trimble 776 minutes, +86, +0.111/min
Washington 482 minutes, +53, +0.110/min
Withers 445 minutes, +56, +0.126/min
 
BillOfRights said:
Season totals
Cadeau 823 minutes, +109, +0.132/min
Davis 1005 minutes, +127, +0.126/min
Jackson 727 minutes, -3, -0.001/min
Lubin 520 minutes, +85, +0.163/min
Powell 712 minutes, +66, +0.093/min
Trimble 776 minutes, +86, +0.111/min
Washington 482 minutes, +53, +0.110/min
Withers 445 minutes, +56, +0.126/
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Looking at those numbers it looks like Withers, Lubin, Davis, Cadeau, Trimble should get the lions share of PT. Imarite widdat line up.
I mean, that’s what the +/- numbers indicate, correct?

But I’m liking Drake, Lubin JWit for the front court these days.
 
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