Gavin Newsom addresses the nation

Including those outside CA, is there a Dem you’d like to provide a leadership voice on these nationally relevant matters?
Give me JB Pritzker any day. Or Josh Shapiro. Or Gretchen Whitmer. Or Josh Stein. Or Andy Beshear. Or AOC. Or Jasmine Crocket.

Or basically someone who is at least within the same area code of real human emotions.
 
I’ve yet to see anyone fanboy. Most of the response is to your vitriol. I recently referred to Newsom as a “creature”, and said during the July chaos that I trust’m as far as I can throw him. I don’t want him anywhere near the Dem nomination.

The criticism of his voice quality, which is the way I’ve heard him for years, and whatever lighting he likely didn’t determine seem odd deflections from simply stating what you think he should do.
 
I’ve yet to see anyone fanboy. Most of the response is to your vitriol. I recently referred to Newsom as a “creature”, and said during the July chaos that I trust’m as far as I can throw him. I don’t want him anywhere near the Dem nomination.

The criticism of his voice quality, which is the way I’ve heard him for years, and whatever lighting he likely didn’t determine seem odd deflections from simply stating what you think he should do.
It is also the fact that he chose to make a primetime speech to the nation. What percent of that speech do you think was about improving the lives of Los Angelinos and what percent do you think was about becoming President?

In terms of what he should do, he could issue press releases and do a select few interviews with media - like all other governors would do.

And when he does those interviews, he could try no to do the fake “tough guy” cussing and requesting to be arrested - which again, is simply an attempt to make the story about him.
 
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So for all the Democrats on here loving on Newsom, you do know he recently went full on @ZenMode on trans women, right? All in an obviously fake tactic to get the center.
Yes, I’m aware.

I’m definitely not going to vote for him in the primaries.

Still, I’m damn glad he’s standing up to and fighting back against Trump’s fascistic and dangerous attempts at a military incursion in his state. I couldn’t care less about the lighting he uses for his press op,
 
Give me JB Pritzker any day. Or Josh Shapiro. Or Gretchen Whitmer. Or Josh Stein. Or Andy Beshear. Or AOC. Or Jasmine Crocket.

Or basically someone who is at least within the same area code of real human emotions.
I just looked at the last 3 days of activity on Twitter for those politicians and they all seem to be taking a pass. Crockett did have one retweet,
 
I just looked at the last 3 days of activity on Twitter for those politicians and they all seem to be taking a pass. Crockett did have one retweet,
Well the good news is that once these protest movements start in one city, they spread over the entire country. So soon, there will be reasons for people in other states to do “Fuck Trump” interviews.
 
Yes, I’m aware.

I’m definitely not going to vote for him in the primaries.

Still, I’m damn glad he’s standing up to and fighting back against Trump’s fascistic and dangerous attempts at a military incursion in his state. I couldn’t care less about the lighting he uses for his press op,
Right. It makes you feel good that this person is saying tough things about Donald Trump. It is the same reason MSNBC built an entire programming lineup around the concept.

But the enemy of your enemy is not your friend. Newsom’s speech tonight was all about Newsom.
 
I disagree with some of his positions but, as a person, I think he's the best overall.
How could you possibly know what he is like as a person? He appears to have no core beliefs whatsoever - other than what he thinks will get him elected.
 
I think Newsom could win in 2028, he's one of a handful of Dems that can. He's been effective at fighting back against Trump and his minions.
Ugh. Please no more California democrats on the ticket. They don’t win. Southern or Midwestern only. They can win.
 
I hope not. He obviously has a lot of people on this board bamboozled as some sort of magical anti-Trump.
If he’s anti-Trump, I’m good with that. His being anti-Trump doesn’t make me Pro-Newsom. The “Never Trumpers” right-wing, Pro-Dubya, Pro-Reagan assholes….that they’re anti-Trump doesn’t make me like or trust them……they’re still pro-Reagan and pro-Jesse Helms.
 
Right. It makes you feel good that this person is saying tough things about Donald Trump. It is the same reason MSNBC built an entire programming lineup around the concept.

But the enemy of your enemy is not your friend. Newsom’s speech tonight was all about Newsom.
And it makes you feel morally superior to whine about Newsom—even when he’s doing exactly what he should be doing—because you don’t like that he’s gone off the reservation about Trans rights and is obviously a self-promoting slimeball.

Typical left-wing circular firing squad stuff.

Ftr, Newsom’s doing more than just “saying tough things about Trump.” He’s actively working to stop Trump from sending NG and Marines to LA.
 
How could you possibly know what he is like as a person? He appears to have no core beliefs whatsoever - other than what he thinks will get him elected.
Calheel,

I like and appreciate your posts. They’re often informed and judicious and calm.

You obviously DO NOT LIKE Gavin Newsom…..you might HATE him.

WHY?

It can’t be eating at French Laundry during Covid…….it can’t be his hair…..

Why do you hate him so much?
 
If he’s anti-Trump, I’m good with that. His being anti-Trump doesn’t make me Pro-Newsom. The “Never Trumpers” right-wing, Pro-Dubya, Pro-Reagan assholes….that they’re anti-Trump doesn’t make me like or trust them……they’re still pro-Reagan and pro-Jesse Helms.
There are a lot of opportunists and grifters out there on the anti-Trump bandwagon. Just like there are on the pro-Trump bandwagon.

If the opportunity presented itself, I could totally see Newsom changing parties one day - just like his ex, Kimberly.
 
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