Gavin Newsom addresses the nation

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superrific said:
I have lived in or stayed in NC, SC, GA, VA, DC, MD, NJ, NY, CT, MA, NH, VT, OH, PA. Also CO, WA, CA, IL, WI, MI, MO, TX, AZ. If Disney World counts then FL. NV, UT, MN, NM, TN, IN, WV.

Driving through RI has to count because there's almost nothing else to do there.

I've driven through AR and IA but haven't stayed there. I've never been near a Dakota and don't plan to. Never been to Idaho or Wyoming and don't plan to. Not HI or AK. Not OR either, somewhat surprisingly. Not NE, KS, WY or MT. I've driven through Delaware on 95 and even stayed the night, but I'm not sure that really counts. Never been to KY, AL, MS or LA and wouldn't be caught dead in the first two. Never been to ME.

So that's 32/51 (counting DC), 33/52 if you count PR.
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Super here’s
superrific said:
I have lived in or stayed in NC, SC, GA, VA, DC, MD, NJ, NY, CT, MA, NH, VT, OH, PA. Also CO, WA, CA, IL, WI, MI, MO, TX, AZ. If Disney World counts then FL. NV, UT, MN, NM, TN, IN, WV.

Driving through RI has to count because there's almost nothing else to do there.

I've driven through AR and IA but haven't stayed there. I've never been near a Dakota and don't plan to. Never been to Idaho or Wyoming and don't plan to. Not HI or AK. Not OR either, somewhat surprisingly. Not NE, KS, WY or MT. I've driven through Delaware on 95 and even stayed the night, but I'm not sure that really counts. Never been to KY, AL, MS or LA and wouldn't be caught dead in the first two. Never been to ME.

So that's 32/51 (counting DC), 33/52 if you count PR.
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Reminds me of this Johnny Cash favorite:
 
States I’ve spent a little time in (not including airport layovers, flyovers, or just driving through):
ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA, MD, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, WV, TN, LA, IL, OH, IN, CO, UT, NM, AZ, NV, CA, WY. Also DC.

States I’ve been in only for the purpose of catching a connecting flight:
TX, MI, MN

I may have driven through a part of DE in my way from NYC to DC.

So states I haven’t been to at all (not including flying over) are:
WI, KY, AL, MS, AS, OK, MO, IA, KS, NE, SD, ND, MT, ID, WA, OR, AK, HI
 
Callatoroy said:
Disagree completely. America voted against a terrible candidate and incompetent woman with zero tangible accomplishments in 4 years as VP, "unburdened by what has been", a woman who was complicit in almost unchecked illegal immigration, a woman who like a deer in the headlights said she can't think of anything she would change from what biden did, inflation, identity politics, the absurdness of biological males playing women's sports, and as Bill Mahar said other "nutty shit". The color of her skin had zero to do with anything.
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At this point there's no possible way Harris could have been worse than trump.

I really don't think her cabinet would have been staffed with fox news idiots or incompetent lawyers that were hired because of their looks.
I really don't think she would have been sending the military into cities.
I really don't think we would be in a trade war that's alienating other countries and hurting companies in the US.
I really don't see her wasting millions on a gimmick like alligator Alcatraz.

I'm sorry at this point pretty much anyone would have been a better choice.
 
UNCatTech said:
At this point there's no possible way Harris could have been worse than trump.

I really don't think her cabinet would have been staffed with fox news idiots or incompetent lawyers that were hired because of their looks.
I really don't think she would have been sending the military into cities.
I really don't think we would be in a trade war that's alienating other countries and hurting companies in the US.
I really don't see her wasting millions on a gimmick like alligator Alcatraz.

I'm sorry at this point pretty much anyone would have been a better choice.
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Great post! Don’t forget she wouldn’t have alienated our military allies of the last 80 years nor be the puppet of Putin.
 
Not including NC

AL, AK, AZ, CA, CO,
CT, FL, GA, ID, IL
IN, KS, KY, LA, ME,
MD, MA, MI, MN, MS,
MO, MT, NV, NH, NJ,
NY, NC, OH OK, OR,
PA, SC, TN, TX, UT,
VA, WA, WV

Still need
AK, DE HI, IA, NE,
NM, ND, RI, SD, VT,
WI, WY
 
I think I've been to 36 states. I'd be at 45 if I took a day or two to drive around the deep south and lower portions of the Midwest.
 
Callatoroy said:
Smart, charismatic and likable is enough to earn your vote?
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Yes, when your only concern is beating the R candidate.
Callatoroy said:
I didn't vote for trump in the primary. I voted for Haley. She had a pretty good record in SC and at the UN. I realize you would vote for newsome in a general election. I was asking about his record in CA as it relates to a primary? Do you feel he did a good job in CA?
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dukeman92 said:
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All of those stats are true, but the GOP myth that California is a dying hellhole that literally everyone is trying to leave is incredibly persistent, as are so many other conservative/GOP myths. As if deep-red states like Ohio or Alabama or Mississippi are just worker's paradises that are filling up with people and don't have much shittier economies (and worse benefits for workers and average people) than California does.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
All of those stats are true, but the GOP myth that California is a dying hellhole that literally everyone is trying to leave is incredibly persistent, as are so many other conservative/GOP myths. As if deep-red states like Ohio or Alabama or Mississippi are just worker's paradises that are filling up with people and don't have much shittier economies (and worse benefits for workers and average people) than California does.
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Exactly! And the truth is that California does have some massive problems -- problems that are somewhat unique (at least in degree) to the rest of the country -- homelessness being a big one that will be an albatross around his neck.

Rogan has a huge stick up his ass about LA and homelessness and rants about it all the time. It is non-factual and biased, but it absolutely will be front and center in 2028. It will be the trans issue of the next election cycle if Newsom gets the nomination.
 
UNCatTech said:
At this point there's no possible way Harris could have been worse than trump.

I really don't think her cabinet would have been staffed with fox news idiots or incompetent lawyers that were hired because of their looks.
I really don't think she would have been sending the military into cities.
I really don't think we would be in a trade war that's alienating other countries and hurting companies in the US.
I really don't see her wasting millions on a gimmick like alligator Alcatraz.

I'm sorry at this point pretty much anyone would have been a better choice.
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Claiming that Kamala would be worse than this is simply delusional thinking, plain and simple. To be blunt, I know smart high school students that I seriously think would be a better leader than Trump has been. The man is a massive idiot who is almost completely ignorant of our Constitution or the basic functions of government or knowledgeable about our global allies and enemies/rivals. And those high school students would be more mature on social media than he is as well, which is really saying something.
 
dukeman92 said:
This is all bullshit. But the Rogan Bros who vote MAGA will eat it up.

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“You can’t ruin a city and then go on to ruin a state and say, ‘Guys, that was just practice. Once I get in as president, I’m gonna fix it all.”’

Trump did this to a country, got reelected, and has taken that ruination to 11 this term. The difference is Newsom doesn't have a political cult supporting his destruction.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
All of those stats are true, but the GOP myth that California is a dying hellhole that literally everyone is trying to leave is incredibly persistent, as are so many other conservative/GOP myths. As if deep-red states like Ohio or Alabama or Mississippi are just worker's paradises that are filling up with people and don't have much shittier economies (and worse benefits for workers and average people) than California does.
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Much of what newsome brags about is just driven by sheer numbers. When you are the most populous state then you are going to be first in a bunch of stats that mislead about what is really going on. It isn’t because ca has the most business friendly climate that it is number 1 in new business starts. The world’s 4th largest economy isn’t because businesses are flocking to ca. But it’s high tax rate, high cost of living, high homeless rate, high energy / gas costs, poor education performance, unfriendly/ over regulated business environment, and soft on crime policies, all driven by liberal policies that newsome supports are why it has a net migration loss (not counting illegal immigrant pop that it draws from being a sanctuary state). People are fleeing the state and aren’t shy about telling why.
 
Callatoroy said:
Much of what newsome brags about is just driven by sheer numbers. When you are the most populous state then you are going to be first in a bunch of stats that mislead about what is really going on. It isn’t because ca has the most business friendly climate that it is number 1 in new business starts. The world’s 4th largest economy isn’t because businesses are flocking to ca. But it’s high tax rate, high cost of living, high homeless rate, high energy / gas costs, poor education performance, unfriendly/ over regulated business environment, and soft on crime policies, all driven by liberal policies that newsome supports are why it has a net migration loss (not counting illegal immigrant pop that it draws from being a sanctuary state). People are fleeing the state and aren’t shy about telling why.
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It’s pretty damn strong. Along with a bunch of other blue states.
www.statista.com

Real per capita GDP by state U.S. 2024| Statista

Out of all 50 states, New York had the highest per-capita real gross domestic product (GDP) in 2024, at 92,341 U.S.
www.statista.com www.statista.com
 
Callatoroy said:
Much of what newsome brags about is just driven by sheer numbers. When you are the most populous state then you are going to be first in a bunch of stats that mislead about what is really going on. It isn’t because ca has the most business friendly climate that it is number 1 in new business starts. The world’s 4th largest economy isn’t because businesses are flocking to ca. But it’s high tax rate, high cost of living, high homeless rate, high energy / gas costs, poor education performance, unfriendly/ over regulated business environment, and soft on crime policies, all driven by liberal policies that newsome supports are why it has a net migration loss (not counting illegal immigrant pop that it draws from being a sanctuary state). People are fleeing the state and aren’t shy about telling why.
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You really don’t have any idea what you’re talking about, do you?

The per capita stats blow your assertions to hell.
 
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