Good faith privately-funded White House ballroom discussion

[heelinhell]

Solid reply.

A. Agree nobody should be made to feel like shit and less human. We should respect everyone and treat them with dignity. But that doesn’t mean we completely change social order. Men in women’s bathrooms, biological men playing women’s sports, schools keeping parents in the dark, transitioning kids, etc.). Respecting trans people doesn’t mean we have to disrespect, or create situations where others feel disrespected.

B. Im adamantly opposed to biological men playing female sports. Putting someone at a competitive disadvantage just so we can be woke and not offend another isnt the solution. That said, I would have no issue with spending the resources to create ways trans people can play competitive sports. I would be opposed to excluding them from that opportunity.

C. Russia doesnt want Iran to have nukes. Nor does china. Nobody wants Iran to have nukes but they weren’t willing to step up. If you think there are world economic issues now, Iran using a nuke to attack Israel, the US, or a ME neighbor would exacerbate that by 100 times. Iran having a nuke would create a much worse situation than NK and would give it impunity from further increased terrorist acts because the price to defang them would be too high.

D & E. Parts of the left don’t share your’s and my opinion on hamas. The left as a whole isnt distancing itself from that part of the party and is actually electing more people sympathetic to hamas. Look at the very recent, high profile election wins by anti-semites. So that is where the left is headed. They are’t running to the Jeff Jackson’s and feddermans of the party. It’s running to the aocs, mumdanis, and omars. The winner of the Maine dem primary is a person who is openly anti-Semitic and sports a nazzi symbol tattoo. Your party is being taken over by radicals. You don’t want that type of diversity.

F. We are in complete agreement I think. I want an airtight border for security and a system that makes it much easier for vetted people to come here to work and a shorter and less expensive way to become citizens. Where I think we differ is I support those here illegally being deported and going to the back of the line. I have a personal stake in that.

G. I’m not sure what fuck ice means. Does that mean defund ice? Abolish ice? As a country we have to have ice. What we also have to have is compassionate enforcement of laws. One of the worst political blunders of my lifetime is trump’s handling of the deportations and putting one of the most incompetent people in politics in charge of that initially. If the story of the 10 year old going to court without a lawyer and wetting himself is true im going to lose my shit. That might cause me to actually attempt to be involved beyond voting. So far I have only seen it reported on social media and yahoo. Im hoping since I haven’t seen it picked up by every national source means it isnt true or has been misreported. I haven’t checked since lunch.

H. The left’s actions are normalizing certain levels of theft through its DAs and social media influencers. Not prosecuting shoplifting under $1000, cashless bail, “micro looting”, sanctuary laws where violent criminals are protected, etc. it’s a path to chaos. It’s the far left of your party for sure but it is the most visible part of the party because there is no party pushback and will be a huge contributing factor IF the dems lose the midterms. Im actually predicting a dem win, but it isn’t a slam dunk like it should be given trump’s propensity for shitting the bed by opening his mouth.

You and I aren’t on differing political planets. It just seems that way because of this board.

That was a good exchange

Following up on C.

Are you concerned that Trump tore up the JPOA which has led to Iran increasing its enriched uranium from 3.67% purity to over 60%

 

[UNCatTech]

It was a typo that changed what you tried to say 100%

Sort of like defiantly instead of definitely or beagle instead of bagel.

 

[UNCatTech]

In Asheville the homeless or "slackers" or whomever are allowed to camp out and live on the sidewalks. You walk past their sleeping bags and encampments as you're just trying to get to your restaurant. ATL homelessness is bad but generally they aren't allowed to camp out and set up house on the sidewalks or parks.

If you want them off the sidewalk, take them to lunch with you.


Why do so many people seem to hate homeless people? To me, that reaction often reveals an attitude of, “I’m important, and your suffering is an inconvenience to me.” The truth is, any one of us could end up there. We don’t always know someone’s life story, their circumstances, or what led them to that moment.


And honestly, if your biggest inconvenience is having to walk past a man sleeping on the sidewalk while you are on your way to spend a couple hundred dollars on a meal, that says more about your privilege than it does about him.


I once read an article about a woman who called the police on a Black man lying on a park bench because she assumed he was just sleeping there. When the police arrived, he explained what he was doing, but of course, they did not believe him. After the lawsuit, they had to.


That kind of judgment is exactly the problem. Too many people are quick to assume the worst about someone who is poor, homeless, Black, or simply existing in a public space in a way that makes them uncomfortable.


Maybe instead of calling the police, complaining, or looking down on people, we could try seeing them as human beings first.

 

[LeoBloom]

Solid reply.

A. Agree nobody should be made to feel like shit and less human. We should respect everyone and treat them with dignity. But that doesn’t mean we completely change social order. Men in women’s bathrooms, biological men playing women’s sports, schools keeping parents in the dark, transitioning kids, etc.). Respecting trans people doesn’t mean we have to disrespect, or create situations where others feel disrespected.

B. Im adamantly opposed to biological men playing female sports. Putting someone at a competitive disadvantage just so we can be woke and not offend another isnt the solution. That said, I would have no issue with spending the resources to create ways trans people can play competitive sports. I would be opposed to excluding them from that opportunity.

C. Russia doesnt want Iran to have nukes. Nor does china. Nobody wants Iran to have nukes but they weren’t willing to step up. If you think there are world economic issues now, Iran using a nuke to attack Israel, the US, or a ME neighbor would exacerbate that by 100 times. Iran having a nuke would create a much worse situation than NK and would give it impunity from further increased terrorist acts because the price to defang them would be too high.

D & E. Parts of the left don’t share your’s and my opinion on hamas. The left as a whole isnt distancing itself from that part of the party and is actually electing more people sympathetic to hamas. Look at the very recent, high profile election wins by anti-semites. So that is where the left is headed. They are’t running to the Jeff Jackson’s and feddermans of the party. It’s running to the aocs, mumdanis, and omars. The winner of the Maine dem primary is a person who is openly anti-Semitic and sports a nazzi symbol tattoo. Your party is being taken over by radicals. You don’t want that type of diversity.

F. We are in complete agreement I think. I want an airtight border for security and a system that makes it much easier for vetted people to come here to work and a shorter and less expensive way to become citizens. Where I think we differ is I support those here illegally being deported and going to the back of the line. I have a personal stake in that.

G. I’m not sure what fuck ice means. Does that mean defund ice? Abolish ice? As a country we have to have ice. What we also have to have is compassionate enforcement of laws. One of the worst political blunders of my lifetime is trump’s handling of the deportations and putting one of the most incompetent people in politics in charge of that initially. If the story of the 10 year old going to court without a lawyer and wetting himself is true im going to lose my shit. That might cause me to actually attempt to be involved beyond voting. So far I have only seen it reported on social media and yahoo. Im hoping since I haven’t seen it picked up by every national source means it isnt true or has been misreported. I haven’t checked since lunch.

H. The left’s actions are normalizing certain levels of theft through its DAs and social media influencers. Not prosecuting shoplifting under $1000, cashless bail, “micro looting”, sanctuary laws where violent criminals are protected, etc. it’s a path to chaos. It’s the far left of your party for sure but it is the most visible part of the party because there is no party pushback and will be a huge contributing factor IF the dems lose the midterms. Im actually predicting a dem win, but it isn’t a slam dunk like it should be given trump’s propensity for shitting the bed by opening his mouth.

You and I aren’t on differing political planets. It just seems that way because of this board.

The Republican Party is rife with antisemites. My go

Solid reply.

A. Agree nobody should be made to feel like shit and less human. We should respect everyone and treat them with dignity. But that doesn’t mean we completely change social order. Men in women’s bathrooms, biological men playing women’s sports, schools keeping parents in the dark, transitioning kids, etc.). Respecting trans people doesn’t mean we have to disrespect, or create situations where others feel disrespected.

B. Im adamantly opposed to biological men playing female sports. Putting someone at a competitive disadvantage just so we can be woke and not offend another isnt the solution. That said, I would have no issue with spending the resources to create ways trans people can play competitive sports. I would be opposed to excluding them from that opportunity.

C. Russia doesnt want Iran to have nukes. Nor does china. Nobody wants Iran to have nukes but they weren’t willing to step up. If you think there are world economic issues now, Iran using a nuke to attack Israel, the US, or a ME neighbor would exacerbate that by 100 times. Iran having a nuke would create a much worse situation than NK and would give it impunity from further increased terrorist acts because the price to defang them would be too high.

D & E. Parts of the left don’t share your’s and my opinion on hamas. The left as a whole isnt distancing itself from that part of the party and is actually electing more people sympathetic to hamas. Look at the very recent, high profile election wins by anti-semites. So that is where the left is headed. They are’t running to the Jeff Jackson’s and feddermans of the party. It’s running to the aocs, mumdanis, and omars. The winner of the Maine dem primary is a person who is openly anti-Semitic and sports a nazzi symbol tattoo. Your party is being taken over by radicals. You don’t want that type of diversity.

F. We are in complete agreement I think. I want an airtight border for security and a system that makes it much easier for vetted people to come here to work and a shorter and less expensive way to become citizens. Where I think we differ is I support those here illegally being deported and going to the back of the line. I have a personal stake in that.

G. I’m not sure what fuck ice means. Does that mean defund ice? Abolish ice? As a country we have to have ice. What we also have to have is compassionate enforcement of laws. One of the worst political blunders of my lifetime is trump’s handling of the deportations and putting one of the most incompetent people in politics in charge of that initially. If the story of the 10 year old going to court without a lawyer and wetting himself is true im going to lose my shit. That might cause me to actually attempt to be involved beyond voting. So far I have only seen it reported on social media and yahoo. Im hoping since I haven’t seen it picked up by every national source means it isnt true or has been misreported. I haven’t checked since lunch.

H. The left’s actions are normalizing certain levels of theft through its DAs and social media influencers. Not prosecuting shoplifting under $1000, cashless bail, “micro looting”, sanctuary laws where violent criminals are protected, etc. it’s a path to chaos. It’s the far left of your party for sure but it is the most visible part of the party because there is no party pushback and will be a huge contributing factor IF the dems lose the midterms. Im actually predicting a dem win, but it isn’t a slam dunk like it should be given trump’s propensity for shitting the bed by opening his mouth.

You and I aren’t on differing political planets. It just seems that way because of this board.

I just want to address D and E here. Parts of the left? There are major antisemitic members of Trump's own administration. Such as those in this article: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/14/nx-s1-5387299/trump-white-house-antisemitism

Kash Patel has appeared multiple times on a podcast hosted by an Holocaust denier.
Further, there is the use of Nazi style propaganda.

Just a quick AI search from Gemini shows a number of Trump officials with links to antisemitism and neo Nazi groups.

If you are going to criticize "parts of the left" for being antisemitic, then criticize this administration for being such.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

So what Ive been thinking - there's two issues - First did Trump break the law when he had the east wing torn down - not that he would ever be charged for a crime because of it

Second - what do we do now because we have to build something there - my preference would be get the site cleared and ready for construction but not to do anything else until Trump is out of office - then bring in Presidential and White House Historians - perhaps the other living Presidents and come up with something appropriate to build there

First, tearing down the East Wing was definitely illegal - the White House and its grounds are not his personal property to do with as he wishes. He gave no notice or warning that he would tear it down, and in fact did just the opposite, initially claiming that his proposed changes wouldn't alter the appearance of the East Wing. He's not gotten congressional approval for his actions, and he didn't follow the procedures for alterations to the White House that Jackie Kennedy got Congress to pass following her own renovation of the WH.

I agree with your second suggestion. Just leave it as is until the next occupant of the White House moves in, and then go through the proper procedures and have approved architects, historians, and other officials decide what to build there. Trump's proposed grandiose monstrosity is nothing more than a vanity project and monument to himself.

 

[farce©]

As for homeless people (or those who appear to be homeless) chilling on the sidewalks or in parks, there’s not much you can do about that as long as they are not violating any law. They have a right be there.

That’s the part he has a problem with. People having rights that inconvenience him.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

If you want them off the sidewalk, take them to lunch with you.


Why do so many people seem to hate homeless people? To me, that reaction often reveals an attitude of, “I’m important, and your suffering is an inconvenience to me.” The truth is, any one of us could end up there. We don’t always know someone’s life story, their circumstances, or what led them to that moment.


And honestly, if your biggest inconvenience is having to walk past a man sleeping on the sidewalk while you are on your way to spend a couple hundred dollars on a meal, that says more about your privilege than it does about him.


I once read an article about a woman who called the police on a Black man lying on a park bench because she assumed he was just sleeping there. When the police arrived, he explained what he was doing, but of course, they did not believe him. After the lawsuit, they had to.


That kind of judgment is exactly the problem. Too many people are quick to assume the worst about someone who is poor, homeless, Black, or simply existing in a public space in a way that makes them uncomfortable.


Maybe instead of calling the police, complaining, or looking down on people, we could try seeing them as human beings first.

It's certainly not a Christian attitude, that's for sure.

 

[Icky Mettle]

If you want them off the sidewalk, take them to lunch with you.


Why do so many people seem to hate homeless people? To me, that reaction often reveals an attitude of, “I’m important, and your suffering is an inconvenience to me.” The truth is, any one of us could end up there. We don’t always know someone’s life story, their circumstances, or what led them to that moment.


And honestly, if your biggest inconvenience is having to walk past a man sleeping on the sidewalk while you are on your way to spend a couple hundred dollars on a meal, that says more about your privilege than it does about him.


I once read an article about a woman who called the police on a Black man lying on a park bench because she assumed he was just sleeping there. When the police arrived, he explained what he was doing, but of course, they did not believe him. After the lawsuit, they had to.


That kind of judgment is exactly the problem. Too many people are quick to assume the worst about someone who is poor, homeless, Black, or simply existing in a public space in a way that makes them uncomfortable.


Maybe instead of calling the police, complaining, or looking down on people, we could try seeing them as human beings first.

I’ve posted this before, but the problem so many people have with homelessness is not the fact that people are homeless, struggling, etc. It’s that they have to see them. To them, the “homeless problem” isn’t the experiences/suffering of the homeless, but their own experiences of having to be reminded of it.

 

[Ramrouser]

That’s the part he has a problem with. People having rights that inconvenience him.

There’s got to be a balance between addressing the needs of the homeless and the quality of life of the public at large. That doesn’t mean allowing the homeless to harass people and setting up homes on the sidewalks downtown.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

I’ve posted this before, but the problem so many people have with homelessness is not the fact that people are homeless, struggling, etc. It’s that they have to see them. To them, the “homeless problem” isn’t the experiences/suffering of the homeless, but their own experiences of having to be reminded of it.

That's a problem with people, and especially conservatives, in a good many areas. Although it's true that some people enjoy watching others suffer, most people just don't want to see it, as it makes them uncomfortable and for conservatives it ruins the illusions they have about America being the most wonderful and happy of all places. I remember reading that when The Andy Griffith Show was in the planning stages it was noted by some writers that they were creating a Southern town with no black people, which of course wasn't realistic, but they realized that if they had black characters they would likely have to show them being segregated, and so they decided to just have an all-white town rather than show things which might ruin the illusion of the perfect, idyllic Southern small town. Too many people seem quite comfortable with the belief that if you can't see it, then it doesn't exist.

 

[Icky Mettle]

That's a problem with people, and especially conservatives, in a good many areas. Although it's true that some people enjoy watching others suffer, most people just don't want to see it, as it makes them uncomfortable and for conservatives it ruins the illusions they have about America being the most wonderful and happy of all places. I remember reading that when The Andy Griffith Show was in the planning stages it was noted by some writers that they were creating a Southern town with no black people, which of course wasn't realistic, but they realized that if they had black characters they would likely have to show them being segregated, and so they decided to just have an all-white town rather than show things which might ruin the illusion of the perfect, idyllic Southern small town. Too many people seem quite comfortable with the belief that if you can't see it, then it doesn't exist.

Well it’s true that some of those small mountain towns in NC have virtually no black people. As for Mt. Airy, the town upon which Mayberry was based, less than 8% of the population is African-American. Apparently in 1960 (around the time of the Andy Griffith Show), it was less than 5%.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Well it’s true that some of those small mountain towns in NC have virtually no black people. As for Mt. Airy, the town upon which Mayberry was based, less than 8% of the population is African-American.

I grew up in western NC and know that there's some small towns with almost no blacks, but the great majority of Southern small towns do, and Mt. Airy being 8% black is still nearly 1 in 10 people of the population. So it was still a cop-out to completely exclude blacks. And the larger point is that lots of people just don't want to see racism, sexism, homelessness or poverty in general, as it makes it easy to pretend that it doesn't exist.

 

[UNCatTech]

I'm not going to lie. Those aren't "mainstream" perspectives for the party, but I have friends who have several of those views, or adjacent views, to varying degrees. I think that liberal need to distinguish between "being woke," and trying to "out woke" other liberals. I'd argue that being - "woke" - aware of injustice in society, and working to make the United States a More Just Union, is noble. I'd' argue that political purity tests are toxic.

So, I'll answer for myself.

A) I have no real interest in trying to define "male" and "female." I think the answer is more fluid than some on the right will be willing to admit and less fluid than some on the left claim. But I think trying to define it isn't really the point. People make choices. We can either make them feel shit, and less human, for those choices, or we can support them. I know, and interact, with enough transgender people that I try to see them as they hope to be seen. People just want to be understood; that's all.

B) This is probably the take that I'm the most divided on. I honestly have no idea where I stand on this.

C) Nobody "wants" Iran to have nukes. But if Russia wants Iran to get nukes, then it is going to get nukes, even if they have to sneak them into the country. Just because someone doesn't think this war with Iran is the right way to go about things doesn't mean teat they are pro-nuke Iran.

D) Fuck Hamas.

E) Political parties should be diverse. There are libertarians in the republican party. There can be socialists in the democratic party.

F) I'm not for open borders. I'm for fixing a broken system that makes it difficult for folks to gain a path to legal immigration.

G) Fuck Ice.

H) Nobody is turning a blind eye to rioting and crime. I don't even know what you mean by this that.

I agree.

Most of these points actually align with what many people believe, but those who want to keep us fighting instead of talking always frame things in the most extreme or binary way possible.

A) If you support trans rights, they claim you believe a child should be able to leave school and get surgery without parental consent. That is a ridiculous lie, but so many MAGA supporters fell for it.

B) If you are against the war in Iran, or war in general, they claim you support Iran having nuclear weapons and do not care about the safety of Americans. That is the MAGA sounding board at work.

Side note: Why are we so worried about Iran specifically having Nukes considering who has them and this:
Nuclear weapons have been used in war only twice, both by the United States against Japan during World War II:

1. Hiroshima, Japan — August 6, 1945
   The U.S. dropped an atomic bomb called “Little Boy.”
2. Nagasaki, Japan — August 9, 1945
   The U.S. dropped an atomic bomb called “Fat Man.”

Those are the only times nuclear weapons have been used as weapons in combat.
Nuclear weapons have also been tested in many places, including the United States, the Pacific Islands, the Soviet Union/Russia, China, France, the UK, India, Pakistan, and North Korea — but those were tests, not wartime use against people.

Back to the post:

C) If you believe that Israel, or its leadership, is part of the problem, then you are labeled “pro-terrorist.”

D) People act like everyone within a political party believes exactly the same thing. This one hits both sides. I know all Republicans are not MAGA, but sometimes it is hard to remember that when responding quickly.

E) No one is for open borders, except maybe Trump when it benefited him politically. Both political parties are stuck because strong, comprehensive immigration policy might take this issue off the table as an election wedge. It could also affect the cheap labor many industries rely on while politicians pretend to care about wages and the average person.

F) Fuck ICE, as they are currently constructed. ICE has existed for years, and while they were never perfect, they were not always this aggressive or out of control. Under Trump, the overreach, cruelty, and boundary-crossing became much worse.

G) Yes, there is a clear difference between protesting and rioting, but people who benefit from keeping everyone angry intentionally blur that line.

H) Crime is a topic all on its own. But I believe a hungry person who is struggling to house and feed their family is more likely to commit a crime than someone whose basic needs are being met. That does not excuse crime, but it does mean we should be honest about what helps prevent it.

The bigger issue is that almost every topic gets twisted into some extreme version of itself. Instead of discussing real policy, real people, and real solutions, we get pushed into outrage, fear, and tribalism. That keeps us divided, and it keeps those in power from having to actually solve anything.

 

[heelinhell]

If you want them off the sidewalk, take them to lunch with you.


Why do so many people seem to hate homeless people? To me, that reaction often reveals an attitude of, “I’m important, and your suffering is an inconvenience to me.” The truth is, any one of us could end up there. We don’t always know someone’s life story, their circumstances, or what led them to that moment.


And honestly, if your biggest inconvenience is having to walk past a man sleeping on the sidewalk while you are on your way to spend a couple hundred dollars on a meal, that says more about your privilege than it does about him.


I once read an article about a woman who called the police on a Black man lying on a park bench because she assumed he was just sleeping there. When the police arrived, he explained what he was doing, but of course, they did not believe him. After the lawsuit, they had to.


That kind of judgment is exactly the problem. Too many people are quick to assume the worst about someone who is poor, homeless, Black, or simply existing in a public space in a way that makes them uncomfortable.


Maybe instead of calling the police, complaining, or looking down on people, we could try seeing them as human beings first.

I have a friend who is a poet. She wrote a poem that speaks to this.

To Late for Change

She begs on the busy corner,
her presence a fault
in a sidewalk everyone sees
but no one repairs.

Her orange and yellow vest
a badge of poverty,
the cardboard sign scrawled
Need Food, God Bless

A cigarette dangles.
Isn't that expensive ? I wonder,
ready to begrudge her luxury.

My hand hovers
over my purse,
as if my money were gold
and I a god dispensing favor.

I pull out some change,
but the light turns green.
I surge ahead ,
and join the indifferent stream.

 

[UNCatTech]

Solid reply.

A. Agree nobody should be made to feel like shit and less human. We should respect everyone and treat them with dignity. But that doesn’t mean we completely change social order. Men in women’s bathrooms, biological men playing women’s sports, schools keeping parents in the dark, transitioning kids, etc.). Respecting trans people doesn’t mean we have to disrespect, or create situations where others feel disrespected.

That disrespect is fake. The numbers just do not support it.


Most of the concerns people raise about bathrooms are already covered by existing laws. If a man goes into a women’s restroom and touches, harms, harasses, or sexually assaults someone, that is already illegal.


The laws that specifically target trans or LGBTQ people only open the door to blatant bigotry. I have read more stories about cisgender women being harassed because they did not “look” female enough, or about men pretending to be trans as some kind of political stunt, than I have about trans people actually harming anyone. Yet trans people are the ones who get stigmatized.


And there is no logical way to enforce these unnecessary laws without violating people’s privacy or encouraging harassment. It is much more reasonable to enforce laws against harassment, assault, and sexual assault.


Well, unless you are a rich white boy at Stanford. Then apparently you get off with a slap on the wrist.

So, while the first two sentences sound great, the follow up make me believe you do not really believe the first two sentences or you would have stopped there.

If 1 in 10 million people play in sports leagues with women, when they were born a biological male, that's not changing social order. It's an outlier and no where near the position the mama crowd claims it to be.

 

[UNCatTech]

@Callatoroy

B. Im adamantly opposed to biological men playing female sports. Putting someone at a competitive disadvantage just so we can be woke and not offend another isnt the solution. That said, I would have no issue with spending the resources to create ways trans people can play competitive sports. I would be opposed to excluding them from that opportunity.

And how do we do this when in most states there are not enough trans athletes to even form a team?

The governor of Utah was right when he said that the government shouldn't be spending time and effort on a bill to discriminate against 4 people, when there was real work that needed to be done.

Gov. Cox: Why I’m vetoing HB11 | Governor Spencer J. Cox

governor.utah.gov

And he's a republican.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

That disrespect is fake. The numbers just do not support it.


Most of the concerns people raise about bathrooms are already covered by existing laws. If a man goes into a women’s restroom and touches, harms, harasses, or sexually assaults someone, that is already illegal.


The laws that specifically target trans or LGBTQ people only open the door to blatant bigotry. I have read more stories about cisgender women being harassed because they did not “look” female enough, or about men pretending to be trans as some kind of political stunt, than I have about trans people actually harming anyone. Yet trans people are the ones who get stigmatized.


And there is no logical way to enforce these unnecessary laws without violating people’s privacy or encouraging harassment. It is much more reasonable to enforce laws against harassment, assault, and sexual assault.


Well, unless you are a rich white boy at Stanford. Then apparently you get off with a slap on the wrist.

So, while the first two sentences sound great, the follow up make me believe you do not really believe the first two sentences or you would have stopped there.

If 1 in 10 million people play in sports leagues with women, when they were born a biological male, that's not changing social order. It's an outlier and no where near the position the mama crowd claims it to be.

In NC 2023 statistics showed that out of 180,000+ high school athletes only 15 or fewer classify as transgender. It's a ridiculous issue to get so worked up about, but conservatives do because they find the whole idea of transgenders appalling and just want them to go away, and not to be seen in public anywhere.

And for all the talk about transgenders abusing little girls in women's restrooms, there has not, to my knowledge, been any reported cases of this happening almost anywhere. But there have been endless, almost daily news stories about Religious Right preachers, youth ministers, traveling evangelists, etc. sexually molesting, abusing, and raping young girls and boys, sometimes over the course of many years, while their churches and denominations simply looked the other way for far too long until they were forced to act by the threat of lawsuits or police investigation. Maybe instead of passing laws to forbid transgenders from using their restroom of choice, they should pass laws to keep Religious Right figures from being alone with underage girls and boys.

 

[UNCatTech]

@Callatoroy

G. I’m not sure what fuck ice means. Does that mean defund ice? Abolish ice? As a country we have to have ice. What we also have to have is compassionate enforcement of laws. One of the worst political blunders of my lifetime is trump’s handling of the deportations and putting one of the most incompetent people in politics in charge of that initially. If the story of the 10 year old going to court without a lawyer and wetting himself is true im going to lose my shit. That might cause me to actually attempt to be involved beyond voting. So far I have only seen it reported on social media and yahoo. Im hoping since I haven’t seen it picked up by every national source means it isnt true or has been misreported. I haven’t checked since lunch.


Fuck ICE means fuck them as they are currently constructed as trumps Gestapo.

ICE isn't a new agency, why did we not see them overstepping their role and murdering people before trump emboldened them?

When looking for information to see the difference in rate of death where ICE agents are involved, there's interesting information to think about, but this one article stuck out: An ICE agent shot and killed fellow ICE agent Ezequiel Garcia in Long Beach in 2012 after Garcia opened fire during a workplace meeting; the FBI later cleared the shooter of criminal wrongdoing. It was in the LA times.

 

[UNCatTech]

I’ve posted this before, but the problem so many people have with homelessness is not the fact that people are homeless, struggling, etc. It’s that they have to see them. To them, the “homeless problem” isn’t the experiences/suffering of the homeless, but their own experiences of having to be reminded of it.

Exactly, out of site out of mind.

If they didn't have to see them then their life would be better.

Same with Trans people, LBGTQ people, brown people they fear might be "Illegal", etc.

If those people would simply stay out of sight....

 

[UNCatTech]

In NC 2023 statistics showed that out of 180,000+ high school athletes only 15 or fewer classify as transgender. It's a ridiculous issue to get so worked up about, but conservatives do because they find the whole idea of transgenders appalling and just want them to go away, and not to be seen in public anywhere.

And for all the talk about transgenders abusing little girls in women's restrooms, there has not, to my knowledge, been any reported cases of this happening almost anywhere. But there have been endless, almost daily news stories about Religious Right preachers, youth ministers, traveling evangelists, etc. sexually molesting, abusing, and raping young girls and boys, sometimes over the course of many years, while their churches and denominations simply looked the other way for far too long until they were forced to act by the threat of lawsuits or police investigation. Maybe instead of passing laws to forbid transgenders from using their restroom of choice, they should pass laws to keep Religious Right figures from being alone with underage girls and boys.

But it plays on their fear that people might be different, so it's a tool for elections.