GOP & Policies toward/treatment of Transgender & other LGBTQ Americans

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This is certainly a tangent from this thread, but given the strongest arguments against the death penalty, the nature of the crime shouldn't matter. The best argument against the death penalty is that the chance of mistake in conviction and sentencing is nonzero (at best, and probably substantially higher than nonzero given the inherent problems with the criminal justice system). The death penalty is irreversible when a mistake has been made - that is the best reason to oppose it. You can't bring back a wrongfully executed person back to life. LWOP (Life without possibility of parole) can be reversed if evidence turns up that the convicted person is not innocent.

In my opinion, the more shocking the crime, the more likely it is that a jury gets it wrong. If a jury hears from a prosecutor that the accused allegedly did something truly horrific, they are much more likely to want to find them guilty. It is human nature to want to see a horrific act punished. I think this cuts against a jury dispassionately making factual findings.
 
This is certainly a tangent from this thread, but given the strongest arguments against the death penalty, the nature of the crime shouldn't matter. The best argument against the death penalty is that the chance of mistake in conviction and sentencing is nonzero (at best, and probably substantially higher than nonzero given the inherent problems with the criminal justice system). The death penalty is irreversible when a mistake has been made - that is the best reason to oppose it. You can't bring back a wrongfully executed person back to life. LWOP (Life without possibility of parole) can be reversed if evidence turns up that the convicted person is not innocent.

In my opinion, the more shocking the crime, the more likely it is that a jury gets it wrong. If a jury hears from a prosecutor that the accused allegedly did something truly horrific, they are much more likely to want to find them guilty. It is human nature to want to see a horrific act punished. I think this cuts against a jury dispassionately making factual findings.
Completely agree.

My turn from the death penalty was reading of how many wrongfully convicted people were freed using DNA and the innocence project.

Now, it's really an expression of how bad I think a crime is.

But, if we could be sure of no wrongful convictions, sex crimes against minors would be at the top of the list for those I would want to see get the death penalty.
 
No this is a better place for this. All the LBGTQphobic people who waste so much energy trying to stop people from loving each other should redirect that energy into stopping real predators.

 
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What kind of sick fuck would say their child died instead of support their child? ELON MUSK, that's the kind of sick fuck.
 
What kind of sick fuck would say their child died instead of support their child? ELON MUSK, that's the kind of sick fuck.
If I had to take a guess, I bet nerdy Elon is riffing on Obi Won Kanobi saying Anakin Skywalker was killed by the dark side. It fits his analogy and his geekiness.

Elon has been on the “woke mind virus” thing for quite awhile. There is a good podcast with Ezra Klein and Kara Swisher going through his evolution and how Elon sees life as a video game and he is the player 1 hero.
 
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