GOP slouches into the crazy to be born as MAGA ~ GENERAL

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farce© said:
Do tell.

It sounds to me like you are et up with the QAnon.
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Not going to get into a back and forth on this. The Trump haters on here would only deflect. Again, Biden is the most corrupt President in modern day history.
I never thought the Republicans would ever win the popular vote again. We did and we won every swing state. The American people are tired of the progressive lefts agenda and the corruption. They spoke. The left needs to do some self reflection or the nation will only get more red.
 
Calheel said:
I think I know your answer but let's do a thought exercise.

Say Trump beats Biden in 2020. What would you project the U.S. inflation rate to be in 2021 and 2022 under Trump? Keep in mind that the US inflation rate was roughly in line with the rest of world.
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It would have definitely been less. COVID and supply chain issues certainly contributed to inflation BUT... Biden + Congress insisted upon passing bills costing $3T in 2021 on top of all the necessary COVID spending in 2020 (including an almost $1T spending package passed in Dec 2020). By the Spring of 2021 people were largely vaxed and returning to work but he passed those spending bills anyway even though he was warned by Larry Summers that his level of spending would be inflationary.

My guess is that if Trump would have won inflation would not have risen above 2 or 3% - meaning interest rates could have remained low.
 
Yosef said:
Not going to get into a back and forth on this. The Trump haters on here would only deflect. Again, Biden is the most corrupt President in modern day history.
I never thought the Republicans would ever win the popular vote again. We did and we won every swing state. The American people are tired of the progressive lefts agenda and the corruption. They spoke. The left needs to do some self reflection or the nation will only get more red.
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So you got nothing. Got it.
 
Ramrouser said:
It would have definitely been less. COVID and supply chain issues certainly contributed to inflation BUT... Biden + Congress insisted upon passing bills costing $3T in 2021 on top of all the necessary COVID spending in 2020 (including an almost $1T spending package passed in Dec 2020). By the Spring of 2021 people were largely vaxed and returning to work but he passed those spending bills anyway even though he was warned by Larry Summers that his level of spending would be inflationary.

My guess is that if Trump would have won inflation would not have risen above 2 or 3% - meaning interest rates could have remained low.
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"By the Spring of 2021 people were largely vaxed and returning to work but he passed those spending bills anyway even though he was warned by Larry Summers that his level of spending would be inflationary."

This being a key contributor to why it wasn't just covid causing inflation and why joe gets to own it. He was warned and ignored it for political reasons.
 
Ramrouser said:
It would have definitely been less. COVID and supply chain issues certainly contributed to inflation BUT... Biden + Congress insisted upon passing bills costing $3T in 2021 on top of all the necessary COVID spending in 2020 (including an almost $1T spending package passed in Dec 2020). By the Spring of 2021 people were largely vaxed and returning to work but he passed those spending bills anyway even though he was warned by Larry Summers that his level of spending would be inflationary.

My guess is that if Trump would have won inflation would not have risen above 2 or 3% - meaning interest rates could have remained low.
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Here is the inflation numbers throughout the world:

www.statista.com

Inflation by country 2024 | Statista

Data on inflation by country shows the high inflation rates worldwide through 2022 and 2023.
www.statista.com www.statista.com

There is virtually no fiscal policy the US could have implemented in 2021 to prevent inflation, and the monetary policy options were limited -- as evidenced by what happened in every other developed country in the world.

And as you note, Trump himself was responsible for signing into law the 2020 rescue packages. And recall those rescue packages were highly popular politically and it is highly likely another one would have been passed under Trump in 2021 (although perhaps a smaller amount).

The IRA spending did not significantly hit the economy in 2021 or 2022. Indeed, much of that money still hasn't been spent. Just passing a bill doesn't mean the money is spent that day.

Biden's fiscal policies certainly must share some of the inflationary blame in the US. Maybe you can assign 1%-2% to the impact of legislation in 2021. But the idea that inflation under a Trump presidency would have remained at the historical norm of 2%-3% -- in contravention of what was happening around the rest of the world, supply shortages, and 2020 COVID cash -- is not well supported.
 
Yosef said:
Again, Biden is the most corrupt President in modern day history.
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This is so wild. I can't believe people actually swallow this. Even if you want to exclude Trump because magic asterisk, it's your contention that Biden was more corrupt than Nixon? For real? Really?

This is especially laughable because of the complete and utter lack of evidence of this supposed corruption. All that bullshit about money trails adds up to nothing, and people who talk about things like "OMG the SARs" are just showing off how little they understand.
 
superrific said:
This is so wild. I can't believe people actually swallow this. Even if you want to exclude Trump because magic asterisk, it's your contention that Biden was more corrupt than Nixon? For real? Really?

This is especially laughable because of the complete and utter lack of evidence of this supposed corruption. All that bullshit about money trails adds up to nothing, and people who talk about things like "OMG the SARs" are just showing off how little they understand.
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The more I practice, the more I think the Bank Secrecy Act (enacted in 1970) was a Trojan horse to make "conservatives" circa 2024 distrustful of the international banking system. Kudos to Mansfield and McCormick if that's the case, but holy shit, the lack of understanding of SARs and AML reporting in 2024 is greater than anyone could have anticipated.
 
nycfan said:
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As an aside, in the early ish ‘80s (‘83 or ‘84) I accompanied my brothers to a comic book shop that was a hole in the wall in a strip mall — I don’t even recall what city we were in, but they wanted to look extensively and my parents asked me to wait with them while they shopped next door or nearby. Anyway, I was 15 or so, not interested in comics and ended up talking to the comic book guy behind the desk while my brother perused the boxes of comics.

I made it teenage girl clear that I was too old for comics but was conversant enough in ‘70s X-Men and my weird interest in Dazzler to talk to the guy for a while. When we finally left, he said he was going to slip something in the bag for me and see if I was too old for that. I figured it would be dork porn but when I got a chance to look it was a black and white comic called Judge Dredd that was a reprint of a British comic book called 2000 A.D(???) or something like that. Violent Judge Dredd/proto-RoboCop stuff. My mom threw it away when she found it lying in my room and I was like yeah, whatever, it was a freebie at the comic book store, I figured too old for my brothers. But I wish I had it now — not sure if it was a bootleg or what (IIrC it was on pulp paper), but might be worth something.
 
nycfan said:
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I got to give the guy credit. "Penis homes" adds some much needed creativity into the "Christian misogyny" discourse.

Reminds me of Melvin Udall from As Good As It Gets. Great character, whose most memorable moments come when being an absolute asshole.
 


“… Eventually, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) simply released the interview documentation himself. This claim that Biden had maybe taken a bribe was one of a handful of things that then-House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-California) invoked when launching an impeachment probe targeting the president.

And then Smirnov was indicted on charges that he invented the allegation out of whole cloth.
The indictment made public by the Justice Department offered a compelling timeline showing how the conversation in which Smirnov claimed to have learned about the bribe couldn’t have happened.

On Thursday, he agreed to plead guilty to the charges he faces and admitted to having made the whole thing up. …”
 
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