Harris/Walz Catch-All | Kamala blitz in closing stretch

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finesse said:
I don't know a thing about him but the name. Who is he? Why would I need to hear anything he has to say?
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He was famous for making people eat cow balls and horse dicks. He has very little of anything to say. Rogan will quite literally just parrot whatever guest he has on, and occasionally will get fact checked and its funny to watch his brain try to deduce what happened.
 
Illithor said:
Sounds like you’ve heard a narrative and followed it without any question.

He almost never posts on social media, doesn’t go on news shows or other podcasts, doesn’t try to do movies or tv shows anymore… pretty much the opposite of a media whore. You should ask yourself what other narratives you’ve been told are removed from reality.

You’d probably enjoy his show if you gave it a chance, but I understand that this is impossible given that it’s not acceptable to like people like Rogan in the social circles you’re probably in.
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I’ve watched his show. He’s a jackass.
 
Illithor said:
Sounds like you’ve heard a narrative and followed it without any question.

He almost never posts on social media, doesn’t go on news shows or other podcasts, doesn’t try to do movies or tv shows anymore… pretty much the opposite of a media whore. You should ask yourself what other narratives you’ve been told are removed from reality.

You’d probably enjoy his show if you gave it a chance, but I understand that this is impossible given that it’s not acceptable to like people like Rogan in the social circles you’re probably in.
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I dont listen to any podcasts. But holy shit you just made a lot of assumptions about me based on nothing...my social circles? Please tell me what social circles you think I am in?

I only know of Joe Rogan from Fear Factor. And he is using media to make his fame and fortune. You are sure JCDing him, but every person in that realm wants the attention to get more viewers to get more money.
 
Illithor said:
Sounds like you’ve heard a narrative and followed it without any question.

He almost never posts on social media, doesn’t go on news shows or other podcasts, doesn’t try to do movies or tv shows anymore… pretty much the opposite of a media whore. You should ask yourself what other narratives you’ve been told are removed from reality.

You’d probably enjoy his show if you gave it a chance, but I understand that this is impossible given that it’s not acceptable to like people like Rogan in the social circles you’re probably in.
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Oh ffs, stop with the oblique “I am the enlightened one” bs. You were doing fine with the “maybe give Rogan a chance” narrative, but you’re going to lose any voice you might seek on this board if you choose to position yourself as someone who’s done their “own research” and thinks for a second has greater insight into the “realities” of the world. This board is a mix of conservatives, former conservatives, progressives, centrists, rural and urban dwellers, technocrats, lawyers, medical professionals, researchers, factory managers, people with no college degree (admittedly, they post less), etc.

You aren’t bringing to this board “realities”. I certainly welcome your perspectives but if you want to position yourself as the insightful enlightened, who also uses slurs - because that’s already happened - then go for it, but know your posts will be ignored, quickly.
 
My perspective on Rogan is that he possesses just enough intelligence to be passable in his milieu, while possessing a warm charisma, yuck-yuck likability that endears the audience. I loved him in News Radio … 25 years ago.

Trouble is, Rogan’s milieu is disproportionately influenced by right wing ideologues and grifters like Milo, Peterson, RFKjr, and numerous medical grifters, and those folks see Rogan as the empty intellectual vessel he truly is. I think Rogan has had a deleterious effect on society by contributing to this current hard turn to the right by young men, which is chalked full of messaging about male entitlement, female inferiority, xenophobia, and creating images of “men” that could and should be criticized for how broadly unrealistic they are for 90% of young men. That said, I don’t think he’s a “bad guy”, I just think he’s kinda empty.

Upshot, I’m in favor of Harris going on Rogan with the condition that it’s Rogan alone involved in the interview. I think he’s easily persuadable, or at a minimum, he’s easy to soften, and that goes a long way with young men.
 
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HeelingAg said:
Oh ffs, stop with the oblique “I am the enlightened one” bs. You were doing fine with the “maybe give Rogan a chance” narrative, but you’re going to lose any voice you might seek on this board if you choose to position yourself as someone who’s done their “own research” and thinks for a second has greater insight into the “realities” of the world. This board is a mix of conservatives, former conservatives, progressives, centrists, rural and urban dwellers, technocrats, lawyers, medical professionals, researchers, factory managers, people with no college degree (admittedly, they post less), etc.

You aren’t bringing to this board “realities”. I certainly welcome your perspectives but if you want to position yourself as the insightful enlightened, who also uses slurs - because that’s already happened - then go for it, but know your posts will be ignored, quickly.
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pretty defensive response, sorry if I offended you?
 
HeelingAg said:
My perspective on Rogan is that he possesses just enough intelligence to be passable in his milieu, while possessing a warm charisma, yuck-yuck likability that endears the audience. I loved him in News Radio … 25 years ago.

Trouble is, Rogan’s milieu is disproportionately influenced by right wing ideologues and grifters like Milo, Peterson, RFKjr, etc, and those folks see Rogan as the empty intellectual vessel he truly is. I think Rogan has had a deleterious effect on society by contributing to this current hard turn to the right by young men, which is chalked full of messaging about male entitlement, female inferiority, xenophobia, and creating images of “men” that could and should be criticized for how broadly unrealistic they are for 90% of young men. That said, I don’t think he’s a “bad guy”, I just think he’s kinda empty.

Upshot, I’m in favor of Harris going on Rogan with the condition that it’s Rogan alone involved in the interview. I think he’s easily persuadable, or at a minimum, he’s easy to soften, and that goes a long way with young men.
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I know quite a few folks who listen to him. I'd say this is largely accurate mostlty because of the folks he chooses to have on his show. I don't necessarily mind the breadth of folks he has on his show, but he definitely does nothing to push back when presented with bat shit crazy ideas.

If forced to try to sum him up in a sentence, I'd go with: He's a dumb person's idea of an intelligent person.

I do think it would be great if Harris can go on his show. He'll get her in front of an audience that likely wouldn't otherwise listen to her and I doubt he'd push back in any way she couldn't handle.
 
Illithor said:
pretty defensive response, sorry if I offended you?
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You don’t have that power, because I don’t know you and, to date, your words have offered me nothing

Your early foray into this board aligns with literally dozens of copy and paste trolls, though you have offered slight hints that you’re maybe not just another OCSCalla derivative.

I eagerly welcome new posters with earnest and thoughtful positions. Any “offense” you misinterpreted was merely fatigue and the impending sense of disappointment that you’re likely just a derivative.
 
aGDevil2k said:
Cut the crap. You came after me, and you are upset when doing that pissed other people off and made you look bad?
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How’d I come after you? By pointing out that as a whole, liberal circles find the idea of Rogan repulsive, toxic masculinity, transphobic, etc? It wasn’t meant as a personal attack, just a statement of fact.

Here’s a fact: 70% of people don’t trust MSM.

Another fact: MSM has been attacking Rogan for years, largely because his viewership of one episode is larger than every major news network combined.

Does he bring on the occasional wacko? Sure, but he constantly says to his viewers that they shouldn’t believe everything they hear on his show. More importantly, he gives a huge platform to experts to talk about real issues. Listen to his recent episode with two doctors Calley and Casey Means talking about metabolic health and the food industry. Or the guy from The Innocence Project he has on every few months to bring awareness to black men who are convicted of crimes they didn’t commit.

People don’t listen to Rogan for Rogan, they listen for the (sometimes) amazing guests he has on.
 
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HeelingAg said:
You don’t have that power, because I don’t know you and, to date, your words have offered me nothing

Your early foray into this board aligns with literally dozens of copy and paste trolls, though you have offered slight hints that you’re maybe not just another OCSCalla derivative.

I eagerly welcome new posters with earnest and thoughtful positions. Any “offense” you misinterpreted was merely fatigue and the impending sense of disappointment that you’re likely just a derivative.
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Cool story. Good to know that it’s worth seeking your patronizing approval if I want to continue posting here.

Not here to troll, and you’ll likely not see me for weeks at a time, as I really don’t normally have time for this (at home with COVID right now). I’ll probably agree with 75% of what you guys talk about, but I’ll try not to come off as “enlightened” or whatever that was in my future disagreements.
 
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