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If you were in a burning house and unable to get yourself out due to injury, would you want a female firefighter coming to carry you out or would you want a male firefighter coming to get you and why?
"The greatest ability is availability"

If you and you five year old child were stuck in a burning building, would you want a male firefighter to show up and decide which one of you he was going to rescue, or would you rather a male and female firefighters show up and rescue you both.
 
My theory applies even if we assume that some females can meeting minimum requirements.

Knowing that a female and male firefighter have met minimum requirements, I'd bet my life that you'd still pick a male firefighter because it is 100% the safe bet. The female may meet minimums, while the male is likely to exceed the minimums and when your life is on the line, you're going to play the odds, which is picking a male.

The military is the same. If you're talking about carrying a pack, moving an injured person, hand to hand combat, etc, the safe bet is to have an all male military.

If you want a police force that is best equipped to handle a physical struggle with a suspect, you're going to have all males.
What about the brute that doesn't have the proper training or leadership didn't get out on time didn't see the right signs to approach that burning building in the right way.

You Trump's think everything is so basic. Anybody can lead anything anyone can do anything... by your logic we should just go get former college football players who are still in shape and have that be the fireman... and based on the type of leadership you support have a former coach who worked as a fireman 20 years ago part time to pay their bills running the shop.

SMH
 
What I find simply baffling is that I can't get ONE person to say "Yes, if given a choice of a male or female firefighter to carry me out, I'd absolutely pick the male". There's an unwillingness to acknowledge biological differences that we all knew exist and make males better suited for specific roles.
Multiple people in this thread, including me, have acknowledged biological differences between males and females that may mean that many more men than women can do certain roles. You are just mad that you can't get anyone to accept that your pointless and unrealistic rhetorical framing as valid.
 
"The greatest ability is availability"

If you and you five year old child were stuck in a burning building, would you want a male firefighter to show up and decide which one of you he was going to rescue, or would you rather a male and female firefighters show up and rescue you both.
Another non-response response, which really only supports my assertion.

It is what it is. Liberals love the science until the science is inconvenient for their social/political views.

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Another non-response response, which really only supports my assertion.

It is what it is. Liberals love the science until the science is inconvenient for their social/political views.
You have never posted science on this board. I suspect there's nobody in your life who loves you, and thus you have to seek self-affirmation in this way, but it's just self-destructive behavior in the end. Instead of making yourself look like an asshole cosplaying as someone who knows things, why not try your hand at something you might be halfway decent at?
 
Does anyone remember when ItsBoTime resurfaced and apologized for purposefully being contrarian and stoking divisiveness and said he had been in a dark place in his life and was working on turning things around? I wonder what ever happened to that guy.
 
If you were in a burning house and unable to get yourself out due to injury, would you want a female firefighter coming to carry you out or would you want a male firefighter coming to get you and why?
if in some weird made up situation I had the choice, I would want someone with the best experience on fire and thinking in the moment, to get out of five-year-old or even me.

Five-year-olds don't weigh a lot and I'm only about 165 pounds. The real risk in this situation is someone taking the wrong route in or out panicking not understanding how the fire is spreading or taking a dumb risk that causes the life risk.

And you're made up scenario where there's just one firefighter going in there to do it "by themselves", you want the smartest person as the carrying of the 5 year old is not the risk...its TIME and route.

And thinking about the type of woman who would decide to work in fire and deal with all the politics the environment etc... I'm personally going with the woman because she would've had to pass some test and she's less likely to be someone who just works out and thought it would be a cool job or an athletic idiot who couldn't find something else and enjoys the lifestyle/attention. I'm not saying this is all males, but you're more than likely to get that dude... and I see that dude has the biggest risk in your fictional scenario.
 
Very early on, I said that there are some roles (probably many) where females would work.

What I find simply baffling is that I can't get ONE person to say "Yes, if given a choice of a male or female firefighter to carry me out, I'd absolutely pick the male". There's an unwillingness to acknowledge biological differences that we all knew exist and make males better suited for specific roles.
Because you are making a false equivalence.
 
When was that? That sounds like a horrifying experience. Did you get burned after you left the house? did you run out of the house while you were on fire? If you don't want to dig up bad memories, that's fine. I understand.
I have talked about it a couple of times on here, but am fine givng the details. I'm mostly past the PTSD.

I was badly burned in 2013 trying to movie a pot of burning hot oil out of the house to keep our house from burning down (the flames had reached our microwave over the stove and I panicked). I got to the door before the heat of the burning oil was so intense (and the burns on my right thumb so bad) that I dropped the pot of oil on the floor while I was trying to open the door with my other hand, burned off most of the skin on my right foot down to muscle and bone, and fell in it. I ended up with second degree burns on both arms and legs and severe third degree burns on my hands, feet, and butt. I crawled outside, and my wife called 911 and the fire department showed up a minute or two later, with the ambulance getting there in about 10. I spent ten days in the hospital, with a level of intense pain that I cannot describe, needed to get multiple skin grafts done, and had to learn how to walk again.

In 2021, right when school was starting up after Covid, my neighbor's house burned down due to a cigarette butt that fell out of an ashtray. There were four generations living in that house at the time, and everyone was able to make it out except the matriarch, who died of smoke inhalation after the fact. She had been asleep when it happened and, although they were able to get her out of the house relatively quickly, it was too late. She survived on a respirator for 7 days, never woke up, and they eventually put her to sleep.
 
So this was a while ago? 1980s? I'm not doubting you; I'm just curious to learn more.
It was, IIRC, in the mid-1970's when women were first being considered for, but not yet allowed, combat roles. IIRC, the tone of the article was something along the lines of: we weren't expecting this, but once we saw the results and thought about, it was obvious. And of course the response was to tailor the requirements to what men could achieve.
 
I have talked about it a couple of times on here, but am fine givng the details. I'm mostly past the PTSD.

I was badly burned in 2013 trying to movie a pot of burning hot oil out of the house to keep our house from burning down (the flames had reached our microwave over the stove and I panicked). I got to the door before the heat of the burning oil was so intense (and the burns on my right thumb so bad) that I dropped the pot of oil on the floor while I was trying to open the door with my other hand, burned off most of the skin on my right foot down to muscle and bone, and fell in it. I ended up with second degree burns on both arms and legs and severe third degree burns on my hands, feet, and butt. I crawled outside, and my wife called 911 and the fire department showed up a minute or two later, with the ambulance getting there in about 10. I spent ten days in the hospital, with a level of intense pain that I cannot describe, needed to get multiple skin grafts done, and had to learn how to walk again.

In 2021, right when school was starting up after Covid, my neighbor's house burned down due to a cigarette butt that fell out of an ashtray. There were four generations living in that house at the time, and everyone was able to make it out except the matriarch, who died of smoke inhalation after the fact. She had been asleep when it happened and, although they were able to get her out of the house relatively quickly, it was too late. She survived on a respirator for 7 days, never woke up, and they eventually put her to sleep.
Oh man, that's terrible. I had an old friend who had something similar happen -- except she didn't try to move the pot and instead lost her kitchen. I suppose it's pick your poison at that point.

What were you doing with the oil? Deep frying? Do they not give painkillers for that, or are painkillers not up to the task?
 
Oh man, that's terrible. I had an old friend who had something similar happen -- except she didn't try to move the pot and instead lost her kitchen. I suppose it's pick your poison at that point.

What were you doing with the oil? Deep frying? Do they not give painkillers for that, or are painkillers not up to the task?
My wife had a pot of oil and a pot of water on the stove. She turned the wrong burner on.

They put me on a lot of pain medicine. None of it helped. Or, more specifically, it helped a lot. It just didn't help nearly enough.
 
Oh man, that's terrible. I had an old friend who had something similar happen -- except she didn't try to move the pot and instead lost her kitchen. I suppose it's pick your poison at that point.

What were you doing with the oil? Deep frying? Do they not give painkillers for that, or are painkillers not up to the task?
I think they give Lipitor for deep frying, not pain killers
 
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