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Is it good that we aren't hearing about Saluda, Hendo, Waynesville, Cherokee, Mills River, etc, etc? I know there was flooding there too, but were power, water, cell and life more preserved?

Seems my echo chamber is more McDowell cty, watauga and buncombe cty.
 
gregh1 said:
Is it good that we aren't hearing about Saluda, Hendo, Waynesville, Cherokee, Mills River, etc, etc? I know there was flooding there too, but were power, water, cell and life more preserved?

Seems my echo chamber is more McDowell cty, watauga and buncombe cty.
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There have been reports of extensive damage in Green River Cove near Saluda. WRAL had a story.
 
gregh1 said:
Is it good that we aren't hearing about Saluda, Hendo, Waynesville, Cherokee, Mills River, etc, etc? I know there was flooding there too, but were power, water, cell and life more preserved?

Seems my echo chamber is more McDowell cty, watauga and buncombe cty.
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I'm the only person that's said something about McDowell because I live here. I can tell you, from talking and texting with work contacts north and west of me, that yes, it's just as bad over there re: cell, power, water, life. But I can't get specific with what they're doing because I have no idea.
 
billybobblockhead said:
I'm the only person that's said something about McDowell because I live here. I can tell you, from talking and texting with work contacts north and west of me, that yes, it's just as bad over there re: cell, power, water, life. But I can't get specific with what they're doing because I have no idea.
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I think of Old Fort as McDowell, and there's obviously been lots of news regarding it (outside of this thread in my "feeds"), little Marion too. I just haven't seen heard nearly as much about the others i listed.
 
gregh1 said:
I think of Old Fort as McDowell, and there's obviously been lots of news regarding it (outside of this thread in my "feeds"), little Marion too. I just haven't seen heard nearly as much about the others i listed.
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Apologies. I thought you were talking about this particular thread.
 
A side-bar to the horrible disaster, this twitter thread on some of the specific neighborly and grass-roots communal help that is happening. The individual anecdotes are neat, but one of the final takeaways is interesting too
"There is a carnival air to the disruption of the status quo. All I can think though, is that we could live like this. We could fix each other's shit, we could give each other things, we could talk to our neighbors, we could check in on each other."


Pertinent to this "weather thread" , looking at other posts of her's, she's a bit prepper-oriented and feels that more and more weather disasters are coming.
 
gregh1 said:
A side-bar to the horrible disaster, this twitter thread on some of the specific neighborly and grass-roots communal help that is happening. The individual anecdotes are neat, but one of the final takeaways is interesting too
"There is a carnival air to the disruption of the status quo. All I can think though, is that we could live like this. We could fix each other's shit, we could give each other things, we could talk to our neighbors, we could check in on each other."


Pertinent to this "weather thread" , looking at other posts of her's, she's a bit prepper-oriented and feels that more and more weather disasters are coming.
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I've been thinking about this a lot, from a different perspective. I live in a larger city in NC, and I may be cynical, but I'm certain we would have torn each other apart if you cut off our electricity and water and segregated us from the rest of the world for a week.
 
Willy said:
I've been thinking about this a lot, from a different perspective. I live in a larger city in NC, and I may be cynical, but I'm certain we would have torn each other apart if you cut off our electricity and water and segregated us from the rest of the world for a week.
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I don’t think that’s true. It was a while ago, but the stories the old-timers tell about Hugo in Charlotte sound a lot like what’s happening in the mountains today. Most people are fundamentally good. When catastrophe hits, our good sides are amplified even more. Some people take advantage of it, of course, but the great majority is looking to help each other and make bad times as good as they can be. It’s a good reminder in these toxic political times.
 
I've heard some great stories and personal accounts of families on the same roads sharing food, water, meals, generators with each other. In hard times most people are pretty good to one another.
 
Willy said:
I've been thinking about this a lot, from a different perspective. I live in a larger city in NC, and I may be cynical, but I'm certain we would have torn each other apart if you cut off our electricity and water and segregated us from the rest of the world for a week.
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First, I think having your own space out in a more rural area makes it easier to live in such conditions. I made it through Hugo out in the country without power/water for over a week (I was in middle school) and while I wouldn't want to, I could do it again now if I had to other than food/water being a major issue. But if you put in me back in an urban apartment near others who aren't my family and I couldn't get away from, I'd likely be at someone's throat in a couple of days.

Second, let resources get really scarce without any hope for more resources and things are going to go south fast no matter where you are. In cities, it's harder to hoard and/or protect resources due to lack of space and so I'd imagine things would get worse more quickly. Out in the country, it'd be easier to hoard/protect resources and only share with those you want; I think that'd make a difference.
 
Many of these mountain communities also contain a homogenous population. You know your neighbor, your parents know their parents, you vote like they vote, you believe in the same religion they believe, etc.

It's an interesting thought exercise. If you were stranded in a post-disaster situation with your family and someone who has the complete opposite political beliefs as you, would you help?

If the answer is yes - should that change how you interact with them in a non-disaster scenario?
 
Willy said:
I've been thinking about this a lot, from a different perspective. I live in a larger city in NC, and I may be cynical, but I'm certain we would have torn each other apart if you cut off our electricity and water and segregated us from the rest of the world for a week.
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Katrina was an example. There were rumors of people being horrific to each other but those were WAY overblown.
 
SnoopRob said:
In cities, it's harder to hoard and/or protect resources due to lack of space and so I'd imagine things would get worse more quickly. Out in the country, it'd be easier to hoard/protect resources and only share with those you want; I think that'd make a difference.
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It’s also less demeaning to shit in the woods than on the sidewalk.
 
Willy said:
I've been thinking about this a lot, from a different perspective. I live in a larger city in NC, and I may be cynical, but I'm certain we would have torn each other apart if you cut off our electricity and water and segregated us from the rest of the world for a week.
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The aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans is the obvious example. I would say New Orleans was already a bit of a rougher city than any of the major cities in NC anyway so that probably didn’t help. Even that turned out to be exaggerated though.
 
Willy said:
It's an interesting thought exercise. If you were stranded in a post-disaster situation with your family and someone who has the complete opposite political beliefs as you, would you help?
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What if my family has the complete opposite political beliefs as me now?
 
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