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Centerpiece said:
They said Oates would only allow him to shoot 3’s and layups… no mid-range jumpers. But supposedly it’s that mid-range game which he has in his arsenal. The thinking is that he can do a lot more of that at UNC. Elbow jumpers from the FT line and such should improve his over-all FG%.

But as others have said, it’s his defense on perimeter vs. 2, 3’s and stretch 4’s and 5’s. Jarin should be a huge upgrade from JWash… At any position, both offensively and most definitely on defense. An upgrade for the team in that trade off.
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i really like the stevenson get.

catchings was a high ceiling but also really low floor guy. the rumored chemistry issues and drama and the sagas with both purdue and byu give serious pause.

stevenson offers a TON of versatility....can guard basically every position on the court.

and despite the time at bama he's a UNC kid and hopefully he gets comfortable back home and gets busy. i would love for him to find his stroke and blow up so we have that over oats/bama.
 
Centerpiece said:
Can't answer that question. But word on the street is Oates totally disallowed anything but 3's and layups. Seems to me as if HD is ok with any good shot no matter where it is on the floor. Word is Jarin, when not jacking threes, would try to get to the rim where he shot over 60%... but was not "allowed" to shoot a mid-range jumper at all. Apparently he had that in his game in HS. That's the word I heard.
But at the end of the day, UNC needed to get bigger, longer... Jarin fits that bill and is an upgrade from JWash on defense and perhaps just as good on offense. It's an upgrade in my book.
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so...who starts at the 4 lol.
 
4thgenheel said:
wilson.

if drake powell stays i'm actually fairly excited about the roster. a bit thin/young at guard but i think this dog could hunt....

evans/dixon
trimble/j. powell/denis
d. powell/stevenson/j. powell
wilson/stevenson/high?
veesaar/lubin/brown
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Yeah Drake is the main caveat to me

Even if he doesn’t make some huge freshman to sophomore leap, he allows for everyone else not to have to do too much

He would be one of the primary playmakers so losing him really increases how much you’re relying on others to make jumps this offseason
 
Heelsandeers said:
Yeah Drake is the main caveat to me

Even if he doesn’t make some huge freshman to sophomore leap, he allows for everyone else not to have to do too much

He would be one of the primary playmakers so losing him really increases how much you’re relying on others to make jumps this offseason
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Hopefully they saved plenty of money to throw at him.
 
I think it also matters how the transfers and Wilson gel with each other and Lubin, Trimble, and Powell, if he stays. No way of really telling how good of a team they will be now. The stats for the transfers might not look that impressive, but they could end up being a good team together. Or they could end up being worse than last season's team.
 
Heelsandeers said:
Yeah Drake is the main caveat to me

Even if he doesn’t make some huge freshman to sophomore leap, he allows for everyone else not to have to do too much

He would be one of the primary playmakers so losing him really increases how much you’re relying on others to make jumps this offseason
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What do you mean by playmaker? Was he much of a playmaker last yr? He didn't create his own shot other than an occasional fallaway (which were mixed in terms of success). Most other shots were spot-up catch and shoot... not from handoffs, not off dribble, not coming off screens. Most of his slashing buckets were off-ball, assisted.
He was a nice passer in transition in terms of decision, touch and vision... so he certainly has potential, but he has some stuff to prove in a half-court offense to be called a playmaker IMO.
 
If Powell comes back, we have a chance to be really good next year.

Too bad Ian left, he really is the last piece to a roster that could conceivably compete for a NC, if Evans turns out to be a capable and reliable PG. As it is, with Drake we look to me like at least a 3-4 seed and a Sweet 16 spot, and anything less would be a failure.

Was super sad to see EC and Ian go, but I'm excited about who's coming in
 
TarSpiel said:
If Powell comes back, we have a chance to be really good next year.

Too bad Ian left, he really is the last piece to a roster that could conceivably compete for a NC, if Evans turns out to be a capable and reliable PG. As it is, with Drake we look to me like at least a 3-4 seed and a Sweet 16 spot, and anything less would be a failure.

Was super sad to see EC and Ian go, but I'm excited about who's coming in
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I would peg Drake coming back at 20-80 (with the 80 being NBA). He has pretty consistently gotten a first round grade. Very few 5 stars come back for a second year when they have a first round grade. I would be very surprised if Drake is here in 2026.
 
Calheel said:
I would peg Drake coming back at 20-80 (with the 80 being NBA). He has pretty consistently gotten a first round grade. Very few 5 stars come back for a second year when they have a first round grade. I would be very surprised if Drake is here in 2026.
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Hard to argue with that. I think he may be NBA bound too.
 
rodoheel said:
I don't really care about whether Oats "disallowed" anything other than threes and layups (though certainly more analytically-minded modern coaches focus on those shot attempts over midrange). I'm just saying that expecting that a guy who hasn't shown it before - and has been a poor FT shooter, which is usually the best gauge of overall shooting touch/ability - is secretly an expert midrange dynamo who can score efficiently from the part of the court where almost all players is least efficient, is not a good bet to make. I would expect that here, his shot attempts will similarly be mostly threes and layups - because those are the shot attempts that most role players take most frequently anyway - and if he shoots a lot of midrange jumpers that is highly likely to make our offense less efficient, not more.

I don't disagree about it being a good thing to add a forward with some length and defensive versatility. We needed another guy like that and I'm perfectly happy for it to be Stevenson instead of Catchings. I just don't think it makes much sense to fantasize about Stevenson's hypothetical midrange game.
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I never said I expected anything either. What I said was “they said”.
“They” being Tar Heel Illustrated.
 
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