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donbosco said:
Found the data: Where are NCAA D1 Men’s Basketball players from?
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As cool as this is -- and obviously NC is the basketball mecca, which only becomes more obvious when considering the quality of players -- it's more or less worthless without considering the number of DI programs in the state.

For instance, the entire state of New York has 21 DI programs, compared to 18 for NC, despite having a much higher population. In fact, here are some numbers about D1 programs per capita:

MS: 1.98
NC: 1.61
NY: 1.11
CA: 0.67

This matters because at the small school level -- where the majority of players play! -- recruiting is very much local. Kids tend not to travel across the country to play for Grand Valley State or Elon College. If a CA kid can't get a scholarship on the West Coast, there's a reasonable likelihood that he just decides to do something else with his life. MD, by the way, is at 1.44, so not the most but still high.

A lot of what is being measured, I think, is just DI college basketball program density.
 
mpaer said:
Thanks for the link
Weird that Durham-Chapel Hill is third I get it that it is per capita
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NYC has five DI schools by my count: Iona, Fordham, Columbia, St. Johns, and Manhattan College (in the Bronx, of course). And Columbia isn't pulling many local players.

Durham-Chapel Hill has three D1 schools. So we have way more spots to fill per capita. True, Duke and UNC recruit nationally so that decreases some of the advantage, but NCCU probably takes a lot of kids local.
 
superrific said:
As cool as this is -- and obviously NC is the basketball mecca, which only becomes more obvious when considering the quality of players -- it's more or less worthless without considering the number of DI programs in the state.

For instance, the entire state of New York has 21 DI programs, compared to 18 for NC, despite having a much higher population. In fact, here are some numbers about D1 programs per capita:

MS: 1.98
NC: 1.61
NY: 1.11
CA: 0.67

This matters because at the small school level -- where the majority of players play! -- recruiting is very much local. Kids tend not to travel across the country to play for Grand Valley State or Elon College. If a CA kid can't get a scholarship on the West Coast, there's a reasonable likelihood that he just decides to do something else with his life. MD, by the way, is at 1.44, so not the most but still high.

A lot of what is being measured, I think, is just DI college basketball program density.
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I disagree that recruiting at small schools is mostly local. Hell my DIII undergraduate alma mater of 1,300 students, located in Greensboro had only 2 North Carolinians on its roster while I was there. We had a number of players from NY and then a mix from other states.

This past season:

Gardner-Webb had no NC players on its active roster.

Davidson had only one player from NC on its roster.

High Point University had only 2 players from NC on its roster. Seven players were from abroad.

Charlotte (UNCC) had only 2 players from NC on its active roster.

UNCG had only 2 players from NC on its active roster.

Elon had 3 players from NC on its active roster.

East Carolina had 3 players from
NC on its active roster.

Queens University had 3 players from
NC on its roster.

NC A&T had 3 players on its active roster from NC.

Campbell had 4 players from NC on its active roster.

Western Carolina had 4 players from NC on its active roster.

The only non-ACC DI schools with 5 or more players from NC on their active rosters were:

NC Central (5)
UNCW (6)
Appalachian State (7)
UNCA (8)

As for NC teams in the ACC:
UNC (6)
NC State (6)
Wake Forest (2)
Duke (1)

Many (most?) of those smaller schools are looking all across the country and sometimes the globe to find some diamonds in the rough that other schools aren’t recruiting. The coaches have networks all over that they are utilizing.
 
Guilford College had 16 North Carolinians! Their roster shows 21 players. They were 22-7 and Div III. Obviously that roster includes their JV team too.
 
donbosco said:
Guilford College had 16 North Carolinians! Their roster shows 21 players. They were 22-7 and Div III. Obviously that roster includes their JV team too.
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Funny that there were so few when I was there. We were also terrible. Possibly the worst team in all of DIII.
 
Icky Mettle said:
I disagree that recruiting at small schools is mostly local. Hell my DIII undergraduate alma mater of 1,300 students, located in Greensboro had only 2 North Carolinians on its roster while I was there. We had a number of players from NY and then a mix from other states.
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Guilford?
 
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