Hubert Davis Catch-all

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SnoopRob said:
It means that our teams were inconsistent under HD and it was an (I'd say, the) issue that never got addressed. It showed up in the following ways...

- Huge swings in how the team played during individual games...starting exceptionally flat and only getting going after we'd get down a significant amount or playing well and being in the game (or even leading) and then have a 5+ minute section where we'd look like we had no real game plan and we'd give up a significant run or blowing significant leads near the end of games and either losing or pulling out narrow wins.

- Significant game to game inconsistency and never really knowing how the team would show up. The team would play really well one game and then look significantly worse the next and then like a much better team in the next game. Or we'd play really well over a 3-5 game stretch and then suddenly play really poorly over a 3-5 game stretch.

- Significant season to season inconsistency. One year we have a guard heavy roster and the next we have great bigs and not-so=great guards. There has been little continuity from year-to-year and, when there has been, it hasn't borne fruit on the court. And, of course, the biggest example here returning most of the starting lineup from a team who played in the NC game and then missing the NCAA tournament.

A lot has been said that the issue with HD is simply wins and losses and, at the heart of the matter, that is true. But a significant related issue has been that under HD, Carolina has failed to meet the standard of "Play Hard, Play Smart, Play Together". Far too often, the team has not done those 3 basic things that lead to success and the result has been, in addition to too many losses, a team often displays wild swings in performance between portions of games, games, and seasons.
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Thank you
It was not an inconsistent 5 year season record : it was possession to possession and game to game inconsistency.
 
My only complaint is that the fact that Hubert inherited an inconsistent program instead of creating one seems to be given a bit of a short shrift. Despite our great tradition, that's the past and not the present. Seven years is a long time in the eyes of a teenaged recruit.
 
finesse said:
My only complaint is that the fact that Hubert inherited an inconsistent program instead of creating one seems to be given a bit of a short shrift. Despite our great tradition, that's the past and not the present. Seven years is a long time in the eyes of a teenaged recruit.
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They just want to get paid now.
 
I don't expect to hear anything until tomorrow at the earliest. There's no way they would have made an announcement today with the women's game happening, and with both NCAA tournaments going on.
 
HandsonFire said:
I wasn’t picking on your or doubting we are getting a new coach, I just thought the wording of the tweeet was funny.
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Totally get it — had just made the laughing emoji on your post and carried on with the thought quoting you just because that got me thinking about it.
 
Bigs23 said:
They just want to get paid now.
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I want to get paid too, not sure why this is an issue.

Now if I'm making a choice and one is where I've dreamed about working, that is a factor. If they are competitive, then I would take less to be there. If they are not competitive, then I'll have to wonder why and what might have been.
 
finesse said:
My only complaint is that the fact that Hubert inherited an inconsistent program instead of creating one seems to be given a bit of a short shrift. Despite our great tradition, that's the past and not the present. Seven years is a long time in the eyes of a teenaged recruit.
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He took over an inconsistent program with a mandate and express goal of restoring it to consistent success. He was unable to do that. That's why he is probably going to be let go.

If the program had been in great shape when he started and he drove it into a ditch, he wouldn't have gotten the five years he did. See Matt Doherty for that example.
 
UNCatTech said:
I want to get paid too, not sure why this is an issue.

Now if I'm making a choice and one is where I've dreamed about working, that is a factor. If they are competitive, then I would take less to be there. If they are not competitive, then I'll have to wonder why and what might have been.
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And then you’d find yourself on Theo’s podcast a few years later talking about how UNC was your dream school and you almost went there lol
 
UNCatTech said:
I want to get paid too, not sure why this is an issue.

Now if I'm making a choice and one is where I've dreamed about working, that is a factor. If they are competitive, then I would take less to be there. If they are not competitive, then I'll have to wonder why and what might have been.
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There's nothing wrong with it at all.

Just pointing out that tradition and recent success aren't as important now.
 
rodoheel said:
He took over an inconsistent program with a mandate and express goal of restoring it to consistent success. He was unable to do that. That's why he is probably going to be let go.

If the program had been in great shape when he started and he drove it into a ditch, he wouldn't have gotten the five years he did. See Matt Doherty for that example.
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I doubt so much a mandate than expectations. A mandate to do something a HoF coach wasn't doing without blemish, so to speak, is a bit tough. Well, that's me and as I said before, y'all do what you do. I'm done.
 
Hubert took over a roster that had 2 future CPOY/All-american guards and a future 2x 1st team all-conference center. I get that Roy’s last few seasons were rough and he wasn’t leaving the best situation possible for his successor, but it’s not like the cupboard was completely bare.
 
SnoopRob said:
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Oh, only as far as the coaching succession. You know that I have neither the ability or desire to keep my opinions to myself. I might even interject a point of history concerning the failures and successes of our current system but actually will attempt to wait until what's done is done.
 
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