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I have so much to say about this but I can’t put coherent thoughts together right now. Suffice it to say, thousands, maybe millions, of people who the vast majority of Americans would want to stay here will have their lives upended by this fascistic policy. Anyone who actually knows one of those people should be in sackcloth and ashes right now. Immense pain is about to ensue.
 
lawtig02 said:
I have so much to say about this but I can’t put coherent thoughts together right now. Suffice it to say, thousands, maybe millions, of people who the vast majority of Americans would want to stay here will have their lives upended by this fascistic policy. Anyone who actually knows one of those people should be in sackcloth and ashes right now. Immense pain is about to ensue.
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Oh yea
You know they will focus on blue cities-just because it feels so good to them
 
lawtig02 said:
My hope: Trump is VASTLY overreaching where most Americans are on immigration and Pubs will get punished in 2026 and beyond.

My fear: Trump is VASTLY overreaching where most Americans are on immigration but doesn't care because we no longer have mechanisms to hold them accountable.
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What mechanisms are available to hold the Biden administration accountable for purposely opening the border and allowing millions upon millions of illegals to pour into the country all the while lying to the American people claiming the border was secure? What can be done about that?

When you look at the spectrum, we'll have to see the final numbers before we can determine which approach was the most extreme....Donald Trump's approach to getting them out or Joe Biden's approach to getting them in.

Who really is pissed off but yet, thankful at the same time, are the drug cartels....pissed off at Trump for creating the most secure border in our history with the same immigration laws as Biden but at the same time, thankful to Biden for helping them make untold billions of dollars being his partner in the human trafficking event which led to the millions of people who entered....all coupled with the massive flow of drugs which entered the country at the same time. Tie up border patrol with processing illegals makes sneaking in drugs so much easier. Yep, being able to exploit and abuse millions of poor people through being a human trafficking partner and illicit drug sales are big business for sure.

Anyway, you Democrats can be happy, even though you were suckered into believing you won't pay the same price for an open border as Republicans by a bunch of politicians who only care about finding the required votes to stay in office. The Trump administration will never be able to deport the numbers Biden encouraged and allowed to walk in. Getting them out is a whole lot harder than just allowing them to walk in.

You just better hope they follow through with the calculation and vote Democrat if you can get them voting rights or hope their children do if you can't. That is if birthright citizenship stays in place. And I do admit, it will be a lot easier to blackmail them to do so if you can get as many as possible on government assistance. But, it's going to make you look kinda stupid holding up "Save Medicaid" signs while creating such an additional strain on the very same resources.
 
Combining deportations with expulsions and other actions to block migrants without permission to enter the United States, the Biden administration’s nearly 4.4 million repatriations are already more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush administration (5 million in its second term)
 
PandemicBlue said:
What mechanisms are available to hold the Biden administration accountable for purposely opening the border and allowing millions upon millions of illegals to pour into the country all the while lying to the American people claiming the border was secure? What can be done about that?

When you look at the spectrum, we'll have to see the final numbers before we can determine which approach was the most extreme....Donald Trump's approach to getting them out or Joe Biden's approach to getting them in.

Who really is pissed off but yet, thankful at the same time, are the drug cartels....pissed off at Trump for creating the most secure border in our history with the same immigration laws as Biden but at the same time, thankful to Biden for helping them make untold billions of dollars being his partner in the human trafficking event which led to the millions of people who entered....all coupled with the massive flow of drugs which entered the country at the same time. Tie up border patrol with processing illegals makes sneaking in drugs so much easier. Yep, being able to exploit and abuse millions of poor people through being a human trafficking partner and illicit drug sales are big business for sure.

Anyway, you Democrats can be happy, even though you were suckered into believing you won't pay the same price for an open border as Republicans by a bunch of politicians who only care about finding the required votes to stay in office. The Trump administration will never be able to deport the numbers Biden encouraged and allowed to walk in. Getting them out is a whole lot harder than just allowing them to walk in.

You just better hope they follow through with the calculation and vote Democrat if you can get them voting rights or hope their children do if you can't. That is if birthright citizenship stays in place. And I do admit, it will be a lot easier to blackmail them to do so if you can get as many as possible on government assistance. But, it's going to make you look kinda stupid holding up "Save Medicaid" signs while creating such an additional strain on the very same resources.
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The easiest mechanism would be for you to stop spreading lies.
 
PandemicBlue said:
What mechanisms are available to hold the Biden administration accountable for purposely opening the border and allowing millions upon millions of illegals to pour into the country all the while lying to the American people claiming the border was secure? What can be done about that?

When you look at the spectrum, we'll have to see the final numbers before we can determine which approach was the most extreme....Donald Trump's approach to getting them out or Joe Biden's approach to getting them in.

Who really is pissed off but yet, thankful at the same time, are the drug cartels....pissed off at Trump for creating the most secure border in our history with the same immigration laws as Biden but at the same time, thankful to Biden for helping them make untold billions of dollars being his partner in the human trafficking event which led to the millions of people who entered....all coupled with the massive flow of drugs which entered the country at the same time. Tie up border patrol with processing illegals makes sneaking in drugs so much easier. Yep, being able to exploit and abuse millions of poor people through being a human trafficking partner and illicit drug sales are big business for sure.

Anyway, you Democrats can be happy, even though you were suckered into believing you won't pay the same price for an open border as Republicans by a bunch of politicians who only care about finding the required votes to stay in office. The Trump administration will never be able to deport the numbers Biden encouraged and allowed to walk in. Getting them out is a whole lot harder than just allowing them to walk in.

You just better hope they follow through with the calculation and vote Democrat if you can get them voting rights or hope their children do if you can't. That is if birthright citizenship stays in place. And I do admit, it will be a lot easier to blackmail them to do so if you can get as many as possible on government assistance. But, it's going to make you look kinda stupid holding up "Save Medicaid" signs while creating such an additional strain on the very same resources.
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Biden didn't open the border. The pandemic ended. What did you expect with all those people waiting to come across. Saying Trump kept them out is bogus. Covid kept them out.

Okay so what about those immigrants who came in and worked without issues. Their kids getting education and getting good jobs and paying taxes.

If you think that closing the border to immigrants is going to stop the flow of drugs you're dreaming. People legally cross the border every daday. You know people live in Mexico and come across every day to work and go to school. And Americans drive across and return. That's where the drugs will come from. Immigrants aren't bringing them because they are going to be processed.

Democrats don't need more registered voters. The problem is the electoral system is rewarding a party with a minority to rule. Yeah Trump won the popular vote. That's 2 times in like 40 years....and sad thing is people were not ready for a woman president much less one of color. That is the reason he won the popular vote not because of any policy.

Thanks to MAGA yall have made America Sad again.
 
lawtig02 said:
I have so much to say about this but I can’t put coherent thoughts together right now. Suffice it to say, thousands, maybe millions, of people who the vast majority of Americans would want to stay here will have their lives upended by this fascistic policy. Anyone who actually knows one of those people should be in sackcloth and ashes right now. Immense pain is about to ensue.
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The Nazis started with mass deportation, but then found it was more efficient to kill.
 
1moretimeagain said:
““I don’t work for Karen Bass. Better get used to us now, cause this is going to be normal very soon. We will go anywhere, anytime we want in Los Angeles.”



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From his LinkedIn page…

25-year veteran of the United States Border Patrol with extensive experience identifying and enhancing operational efficiencies. Demonstrated history of leading community outreach initiatives to engage community members, law enforcement and local government to achieve common national security goals. Key strengths include cultural awareness, strategy formulation & implementation, leadership and budget management.
 
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