—> ICE / Immigration Catch-All

[Mulberry Heel]

That's not only increasingly the Trump Administration's final defense of any of their actions - "Americans voted for this" or "we're just doing what the voters elected us to do" - but it's also the go-to defense of his supporters on this board and elsewhere. And the truth is in many ways they're right - this is what the great majority of his nearly 78 million voters thought they wanted - causing chaos, shaking things up, burning down the system, hurting people they don't like, etc. However, it has certainly been interesting reading the growing number of stories from Trumpers who have lost their jobs or their businesses are suffering thanks to Dear Leader's actions claiming that "this isn't what I voted for!" As to the legality and ethics and morals of what they're doing, that's obviously a very different matter.

 

[Silence Dogood]

I know nothing about this, just what they tell me, but I know he is evil.

Trust the experts? How soon we forget

 

[Silence Dogood]

 

[superrific]

Nope. Those are lies. And the ALJ is not a separate source of information. It's more like this:

ICE: He's MS-13
ALJ: Guess I have to take your word for that but you can't deport him.

[nothing happened for six years]

Trump: send him a gulag.

The problem with being MAGA is that MAGA **almost never** knows the facts. Or the law.

 

[DiehardHeelFan]

This was a topic on Fox and Friends this morning. Not that this picture was obviously photoshopped and poorly, but that they were having margaritas together.

Couldn’t hear since it was at the gym but seeing all of the headlines they ran through, I can see where some of our loonier pubs/MAGA get their talking points. Thought their source would one of the farther right media outlets. Nope, Fox is all in on the crazy talk.

 

[Huh?]

I wonder if HintonJamesHeel will think it's unwise for Democrats to push back next week when the Insurrection Act is invoked...

Imagine the ads! I bet an upside down bible will be featured...

 

[superrific]

I didnt take from that at all that Judge Wilkinson is giving the administration the benefit of the doubt and crediting what they say. Thats the closest I’ve ever seen a federal appellate judge come to saying that the sitting executive is a lawless tyrant. As you essentially acknowledge, actually saying Trump is a lawless tyrant would just be counterproductive in this context. If people perceive the courts as biased and/or overreaching it will make it easier for Trump to further degrade and disregard them.

I mean, that closing is kind of ridiculous, right? But as I said, I know why he wrote it. It's not a criticism of Wilkinson that what would otherwise be a perfectly anodyne statement is actually patent unrealism. It's a criticism of the WH adminstration.

 

[TangledUpInBlue06]

My rhetorical question to anyone opposed to bringing Abrego Garcia back is this: If you can achieve the same result (deportation to El Salvador) or substantially the same result (deportation to some other country) while following the law, why would you not want to do that? Is the law-flouting the point?

 

[altmin]

ICE Is Paying Palantir $30 Million to Build ‘ImmigrationOS’ Surveillance Platform

In a document published Thursday, ICE explained the functions that it expects Palantir to include in a prototype of a new program to give the agency “near real-time” data about people self-deporting.

www.wired.com

 

[nycfan]

Physical rather than digital props

 

[4thgenheel]

Physical rather than digital props

bukele is an absolute shitheel.

 

[Silence Dogood]

My rhetorical question to anyone opposed to bringing Abrego Garcia back is this: If you can achieve the same result (deportation to El Salvador) or substantially the same result (deportation to some other country) while following the law, why would you not want to do that? Is the law-flouting the point?

Give it up, he's not coming back, rightfully so!

 

[4thgenheel]

I'm going to say something that will likely not be popular here, and I say it fully recognizing I'm lowering the bar. I'm more deeply moved by an unimpeachable renunciation of Trumpism by an arch-conservative like Wilkinson than I am by a liberal. If that opinion had been written by someone like Michelle Childs, I would still have loved it, but it wouldn't have impacted me the same way. So I guess that's a challenge to the callatoroys and HeelYeahs who have conveniently disappeared recently. This board doesn't really matter, but it would still be nice to know you see what's happening and you're willing to fight it, and that the entirety of Republicanism hasn't been coopted by Russian trolls like Silence Dogood.

calla has been active on IC lately, lol.

 

[4thgenheel]

Give it up, he's not coming back, rightfully so!

answer the question, идиот.

why do it illegally?

i thought the GOP was the party of law and order? not so much, eh?

 

[bridgetender]

Give it up, he's not coming back, rightfully so!

Do you support American citizens and legal residents being sent to a prison in a foreign country?

 

[Silence Dogood]

Do you support American citizens and legal residents being sent to a prison in a foreign country?

Dude, we're past that. You're giving out blatantly false info at this point. Do better!

 

[TangledUpInBlue06]

Give it up, he's not coming back, rightfully so!

I hope the law treats you the way you would have it treat others.

 

[Silence Dogood]

I hope the law treats you the way you would have it treat others.

Yes I expect to be punished if I enter a country illegally or do anything against the law. I'm not above the law.

 

[TangledUpInBlue06]

Yes I expect to be punished if I enter a country illegally or do anything against the law. I'm not above the law.

And if our government accuses you of doing something against the law? Would you like the government to have to prove their case or you're okay with straight to jail?

 

[4thgenheel]

Dude, we're past that. You're giving out blatantly false info at this point. Do better!

lmaooooo.

the only person dealing in blatantly false information here is you.