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[BlueSteel]

Pretti may not be a domestic terrorist (loaded term that the admin should avoid) but he was a professional agitator intent upon upon impeding ICE's lawful duties. He's not an innocent protestor/nurse merely wanting to film ICE. He actively was working with Signal Chat on a full time basis after being fired from his job as a nurse for insubordination.

I'm not saying he deserved to be shot by ICE but he was playing Russian roulette by repeatedly inserting himself into law enforcement raids with a loaded gun, spitting and putting his hands on officers and kicking out a tail light as they were leaving the scene.

Nothing you've written here changes the fact that the ICE agents who shot him were unjustified in doing so and must be tried for murder. Also, I love the "professional" agitator label being slung around by the MAGA echo chamber. As if all these people are getting paychecks. False.

 

[BlueSteel]

Just because you enjoy the constitutional right to carry a gun on your person doesn't, in all cases, make it smart or safe to do so particularly if you are inserting yourself into a dangerous, tense situation involved armed officers.

Like on J6?

 

[BlueSteel]

I really agree with this. For decades the right-wing has demanded an expansive interpretation of the 2nd Amendment as a protection against governmental overreach. And now that government overeach is actually happening, the right-wing interpretation of the 2nd Amendment has shifted to, "Guns for me, but none for thee."

The right literally stands for nothing anymore.

 

[nycfan]

 

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[superrific]

Duh. The stories are always false.

People need to never forget what Vance admitted in 2024 on the campaign, when talking about the pet eating. He refused to apologize for inventing stories if it helps him get elected. He didn't put it exactly like that (he said he would invent stories to show the american people the reality but of course we know what he meant).

So every single anecdote Vance ever tells should be treated as presumptively false. He admitted it.

 

[nycfan]

Whose base is he talking about? And why is he pink?

 

[nycfan]

“… It's really insurrectionists and agitators and they're paid ... everybody has a beautiful sign with brand new wood. Leather panels.“

Brand new wood is easy to obtain at your local hardware box store. But leather panels?

 

[BlooVooDoo]

“… It's really insurrectionists and agitators and they're paid ... everybody has a beautiful sign with brand new wood. Leather panels.“

Brand new wood is easy to obtain at your local hardware box store. But leather panels?

Fine Corinthian leather really makes a protest sign pop.