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[finesse]

I mean you can verify it for yourself. Not doing so is willful ignorance

The only numbers that I can find are from ICE and DHS who, the only times they are not lying and misrepresenting, are busy lying about their misrepresentations and misrepresenting their lies. It seems that they are so indiscriminate and secretive no one really knows who or what they have in custody.

 

[Callatoroy]

The only numbers that I can find are from ICE and DHS who, the only times they are not lying and misrepresenting, are busy lying about their misrepresentations and misrepresenting their lies. It seems that they are so indiscriminate and secretive no one really knows who or what they have in custody.

And the numbers in the cbs report? How about the numbers in the NY Post story today about 7,000 in NY system? CBS obviously confident enough to publish them.

 

[Callatoroy]

If they are sourced from the current federal government, absolutely not.

I don’t know where they are sourced from. Did you read the article?

 

[finesse]

And the numbers in the cbs report? How about the numbers in the NY Post story today about 7,000 in NY system? CBS obviously confident enough to publish them.

Who is it that just bought CBS and has almost ruined its reputation for journalism? Can you link to someone not so obviously for sale?

 

[Callatoroy]

Who is it that just bought CBS and has almost ruined its reputation for journalism? Can you link to someone not so obviously for sale?

I didn’t post the article. I read it on here. My thought is that CBS went with it because they thought it contradicted trump’s claims. I don’t think it was written, based on the way it was written to benefit trump.

 

[Bobfripp]

Do you trust the numbers in the CBS article

Do you trust the Trump administration to provide accurate data?

 

[Callatoroy]

Do you trust the Trump administration to provide accurate data?

Yes and no. From trump directly, not so much. From underlings far removed, more so. My opinion is that the CBS numbers are close to accurate.

 

[Bobfripp]

From underlings far removed, more so.

As an ancient proverb has it, "The fish rots from the head"

 

[Callatoroy]

As an ancient proverb has it, "The fish rots from the head"

Whomever coined that phrase must have found discarded shrimp in the console of their boat.

 

[Callatoroy]

DHS Sets the Record Straight on Administrative Warrants and American Public Support of President Trump’s Deportations of Illegal Aliens | Homeland Security

DHS is debunking several of the mainstream media’s false narratives related to the use of administrative warrants to arrest illegal aliens, as well as the notion that most Americans do not support immigration enforcement.

www.dhs.gov

Im not a huge believer in polls because they can be so easily manipulated so I generally disregard until I have had time to look at numerous polls. But there is info in the DHS document that could easily be refuted if false, or gray areas identified.

 

[pspsps]

I believe the provenance and veracity of statistics from DHS to the same degree I trust it from DHHS or the “Department of War” or whoever fudges the economic data.

 

[Callatoroy]

I believe the provenance and veracity of statistics from DHS to the same degree I trust it from DHHS or the “Department of War” or whoever fudges the economic data.

I know. I wish I could be that blissfully cynical. I just can’t relate to that mindset.

 

[pspsps]

Naivety is a choice.

 

[mpaer]

I believe the provenance and veracity of statistics from DHS to the same degree I trust it from DHHS or the “Department of War” or whoever fudges the economic data.

As an old -I remember the Vietnam stats Dead enemy bullshit reports

 

[Bobfripp]

I know. I wish I could be that blissfully cynical. I just can’t relate to that mindset.

One can be willfully ignorant though when confronted with information that doesn't confirm their bias.