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Ramrouser said:
Whether the nurse was fired or not is a small, insignificant detail to my broader point. He surely didn't seem to be working a lot this month - choosing to be a professional agitator instead.
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Look over here and not at my laughable gullibility and lying.
 
Do you have to declare for professional agitator status? Is there a draft? I assume only the best agitators make it to the pro ranks. Probably good to get a degree as a fall back in case dreams of going pro don't pan out.

Still, I hate how NIL has ruined amateur agitating. It used to be so pure but now it's just like minor league professional agitating. It's so transient and transactional. I miss the four year guys.
 
Ramrouser said:
Just because you enjoy the constitutional right to carry a gun on your person doesn't, in all cases, make it smart or safe to do so particularly if you are inserting yourself into a dangerous, tense situation involved armed officers.
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This is what your position gets reduced to.

On one side, ICE officers murdered him. On this other side, Pretti did not something "not smart or safe." Both at fault, right?

Whether it was smart or safe for Pretti to do that is pure question-begging. Why is it not smart or safe? Because ICE is shooting people! So, solution is: ICE stop shooting people. Then Pretti would have been smart and safe.

And whether it was smart or safe is really Pretti's business and nobody else's. I don't think it's smart or safe to climb a huge rockface with no harness but if the guy wants to do it, should I try to stop him? Should I say, rock climbing is illegal? Boy that logic would put a damper on your life real freaking quick, because you know one thing WAY less smart and safe than carrying a gun to a rally? Playing football, and to a lesser extent any professional sports where injuries are common.

Personally I think it was dumb of him to take the gun. That's because I generally think it's stupid to take guns with you -- they just cause more trouble than they are worth, to say nothing of the risks associated. But whatever -- if the law says he has the right to do it, I don't know why your side would take issue except for cult.
 
Ramrouser said:
Whether the nurse was fired or not is a small, insignificant detail to my broader point. He surely didn't seem to be working a lot this month - choosing to be a professional agitator instead.
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You claimed he was fired. As others have shown, he clearly was not. Given that you have a propensity for lying or stating falsehoods, why should we believe you that Pretti was a professional agitator? Where is your evidence? Did you get it from the same source as your evidence for Pretti losing his job? Your 'source' seems to suck.
 
Ramrouser said:
Whether the nurse was fired or not is a small, insignificant detail to my broader point. He surely didn't seem to be working a lot this month - choosing to be a professional agitator instead.
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Let's say I grant your point. Then what? So he's a professional agitator. First, how do you think that matters to the question of ICE's performance? Second, if he's a professional agitator, what would you call Elon Musk?
 
TangledUpInBlue06 said:
Do you have to declare for professional agitator status? Is there a draft? I assume only the best agitators make it to the pro ranks. Probably good to get a degree as a fall back in case dreams of going pro don't pan out.

Still, I hate how NIL has ruined amateur agitating. It used to be so pure but now it's just like minor league professional agitating. It's so transient and transactional. I miss the four year guys.
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You get a $50,000 signing bonus for joining the professional agitator group, and we've recently relaxed the requirements, so you don't need a college degree.
 
Ramrouser said:
particularly if you are inserting yourself into a dangerous, tense situation involved armed officers.
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At the risk of piling on, let me make a point with some seriousness.

One way to look at it is that Pretti put himself into a tense situation involving armed officers. Another way to look at it was the officers put themselves in a tense situation with the community. Basically, here you're just saying that the police have a right to define space. If the police are at X, then anyone approaching X is creating a problem. It doesn't matter if the police are allowed to be at X or should be there -- in your book, the only thing that matters is that they are there and then anyone approaching is to blame for being unsafe.

You must be the easiest fuck in the history of humanity. Guy walks up to you and puts his hard dick into your hips, you strip, hit the floor, anus up and legs outstretched, ready to be fucked for the next hour. He established his presence and gets to set the rules
 
05C40 said:
You seem to be pretty well informed on both Pretti as a person and what he should have expected to happen to him.
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The disgusting son of a bitch knows ten times as much about Alex Pretti as he or any Trumpanzee knows about Thomas Crooks. And he shot their god king (allegedly).
 
Ramrouser said:
Whether the nurse was fired or not is a small, insignificant detail to my broader point. He surely didn't seem to be working a lot this month - choosing to be a professional agitator instead.
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Just say you would suck trump's dick if he said it would help deport people with darker skin. At least we could respect your honesty. Just say your support for the first amendment, the second amendment, and the entire Constitution depends on who is president.

You surely don't seem to be human or rational a lot this month - choosing to be a professional asshole instead.
 
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