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nycfan said:
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Heather Cox Richardson is the first I saw to raise awareness about Noem/DOJ using a logo of collective punishment at a presser after the Good shooting.

People are widely attributing the phrase to the Nazis, but I dislike sloppiness of crying Nazi Germany too quickly. On a quick first search, as far as I can tell the concept of collective punishment (rather than this exact phrase) is associated with Nazis and other fascists but also more generally with war crimes (see the Geneva Convention) in the 20th century (and throughout history).

The Intolerable Acts in pre-Revolutionary Massachusetts were intolerable in large part because they were collective punishment for the Boston Tea Party — the British attempt to punish that colony and strike fear in other colonies/colonists backfired spectacularly against the Brits and was one of the final fuses that lit the start of the American Revolution.

The response to WWI was considered to have led to WWII for a lot of reasons, but Hitler weaponized the collective punishment of Germany in the treaty terms to great effect. But in the 20th Century, Spanish Fascists, Nazi Germany and the Soviets were prolific and brutal users of violent collective torture and murder.

In any event, it has a long history of use prior to the 20th century (see accounts from virtually any European colony) and a shorter but material history of backfiring.
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I have a slogan for these Fascist fucks.

ICE, when you're too scared to join the Army but too dumb to be a cop.
 
nycfan said:
I posted this in the Current Events thread. I just want to have some support before too broadly slapping the Nazi label on everything — Stalin was a big fan of collective punishment, too. But there are definitely intentional uses of Nazi and white supremacist phrases and stylings across government propaganda posted by the Trump Administration. It could easily be its own thread to keep a running list of examples.
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Good point, but I don't think "We're channeling Stalin, not Hitler," is a great fallback position for Trump. :)
 
nycfan said:
Those are wine grandmas, though. They wouldn’t embarrass themselves by holding up a sign! A plush 🐏 would be OK though.
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Gotta love the Osterneks (sp?).

Gave so much money to instantly get courtside seats ON THE COURT level…..not adjacent to the court in the stands……on the court level…..IN CARMICHAEL……East sideline, near the North baseline.
 
mynameisbond said:
If you can believe Kristy Noem, in a CNN interview last night with Jake Tapper she claimed there have been 500 injured ICE agents due to these “domestic terrorists.” No proof and no source offered.
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To be fair they are counting injuries that occurred while beating the shit out of “illegals “ soccer moms and high school kids.
 
HandsonFire said:
To be fair they are counting injuries that occurred while beating the shit out of “illegals “ soccer moms and high school kids.
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Does the total include the dumbass who didn’t have his gun’s safety on who fell on the ice and busted his ass?
 
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