I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

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How did the average daily post count in the ZZLP stack up with the other threads? I know game day threads skew the numbers on the sports threads, just looking for a ballpark comparison. What is the comparison of page views vs. premium memberships as far as where the income was derived? Obviously they lost all the page views when they nuked the ZZLP (and more than a few premium memberships I would think as well) but did page views really contribute that much to their bottom line?
 
SnoopRob said:
I moderated the ZZL and ZZLP for almost 8 years. It was a shitshow.

What questions do you have about IC? Or being an IC mod? Or about the ZZL or ZZLP? Or about whatever else?

Ask me anything.
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Is this a mea culpa, Snoop?:)
 
mpaer said:
I still have frustration on Mods in Tar Pit Premium. To me the core SEC Football crowd is constanly being Political with their "Booger eating faculty keep us down" comments. But if in a long discussion someone mentions the word politics-that is a big no no
I digress
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I have nothing to do with the moderation on the sports boards.

But I will say that it is difficult to moderate discussions when politics have invaded so many parts of daily life, it seems. But lets also recognize that a lot of political conspiracy theorists are conspiracy theorists in all parts of their lives.
 
Carolina Fever said:
Maybe because the "liberals " as you put it weren't the ones that posted racist and bigoted comments.
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There are plenty of liberals that posted plenty of racist and bigoted comments unapologetically. There were comments on the old board just as there are comments here about white men doing this or that that would never fly if someone changed the color or gender of who they were bigoted towards.

I thought the hypocrisy was pretty ridiculous and the people that defended it were loons.
 
Milk and Cookies said:
Has there been any surprised reactions to the size of the exodus after closing down ZZLP? You may not have insight anymore, but I'm curious.
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I don't have a lot of good insight on this. You'd be surprised how little interaction I had with the IC PTB on any type of consistent basis. Most of the discussions I had with the PTB were because something had blown up and I was kinda in the way of fixing it.

My hunch is that they knew there would be a cost to closing down the ZZLP and they were willing to bear those costs. In the long run, it was certainly a smaller cost than continuing to lose posters over political discussion over a longer period of time.

I have no idea if the immediate reaction was larger or smaller than they anticipated.
 
SnoopRob said:
The simple answer is that it was too big of a headache to allow to continue and hurting the core business of IC, which is school-specific sports reporting based in paid premium subscriptions.

The paid sports boards, especially the football board, are much more conservative than the ZZL and ZZLP. We routinely had issues where VIP members from the sports boards come over to the ZZLP, posted a bit, got really pissed off at what was said to them, and started crying to the site PTB. It got even worse when they broke IC and ZZLP rules and the moderators got invovled. Inevitably, it turned into a "Do you know how long I've been a member here!?! If I can't post what i want where I want on IC then I'll cancel my membership!"

IC's PTB were happiest when the ZZL and ZZLP essentially did nothing that rose to their attention and it was just a niche portion of the site that didn't create any problems. Over the last 8 years those days became less and less and the amount of ZZLP issues being raised to the level of the PTB were greatly increasing, as were folks either cancelling or threatening to cancel their VIP memberships over ZZLP issues.

It became too much for the PTB to deal with and was no longer worth the headache, so they killed the ZZLP and instituted the "no politics" rule across the site.
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... yet another example of why we can't have nice things in the time of Trump.
 
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