I'm a former IC ZZL/P Mod = AMA

  • Thread starter Thread starter SnoopRob
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies: 772
  • Views: 12K
  • Off-Topic 
gtyellowjacket said:
There are plenty of liberals that posted plenty of racist and bigoted comments unapologetically. There were comments on the old board just as there are comments here about white men doing this or that that would never fly if someone changed the color or gender of who they were bigoted towards.

I thought the hypocrisy was pretty ridiculous and the people that defended it were loons.
Click to expand...
You have no idea what racism or bigotry is. That's the problem. White people complaining about white people being racist and bigoted isn't being racist and bigoted towards white people. Also, racism and bigotry is towards minorities and people who have been routinely oppressed. I don't think straight, white Christians fit that.
 
CallMeTyler said:
After moderating for so many years, give us your take on why the “fuck your feelings” crowd is always so up into their feelings? I’ve never met a group so quick to cry foul when a little pushback gets directed towards them.

Weak spines.
Click to expand...
Because "fuck your feelings" is an immature stance on life and a cover for insecurity, altogether.

Learning to value other people's feelings is an important part of maturity. It means learning to value other people as people inherently deserving of worth and that their feelings, while not necessarily correct on the basis of fact, are at least worth considering.

People who can't at least consider other people's feelings and give them any basic worth aren't people who are going to handle any sort of conflict well.
 
hedge said:
How did the average daily post count in the ZZLP stack up with the other threads? I know game day threads skew the numbers on the sports threads, just looking for a ballpark comparison. What is the comparison of page views vs. premium memberships as far as where the income was derived? Obviously they lost all the page views when they nuked the ZZLP (and more than a few premium memberships I would think as well) but did page views really contribute that much to their bottom line?
Click to expand...
I don't know this directly and never really bothered to try to figure out the post count numbers.

I will say that I don't think that post counts are a main driver of revenue for IC. While the ads do bring in some revenue based on page views, all those posts and views also directly cost money, as well.

I believe that the primary driver of profit is VIP subscriptions, which explains why they'd nuke a fairly popular board in order to maintain VIP happiness.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
There are plenty of liberals that posted plenty of racist and bigoted comments unapologetically. There were comments on the old board just as there are comments here about white men doing this or that that would never fly if someone changed the color or gender of who they were bigoted towards.

I thought the hypocrisy was pretty ridiculous and the people that defended it were loons.
Click to expand...
That's enough. Ignore.
 
Why did you ban me permanently while only giving the poster who threatened to go on a mass shooting and kill me 2 weeks off?
 
SnoopRob said:
I don't have a lot of good insight on this. You'd be surprised how little interaction I had with the IC PTB on any type of consistent basis. Most of the discussions I had with the PTB were because something had blown up and I was kinda in the way of fixing it.

My hunch is that they knew there would be a cost to closing down the ZZLP and they were willing to bear those costs. In the long run, it was certainly a smaller cost than continuing to lose posters over political discussion over a longer period of time.

I have no idea if the immediate reaction was larger or smaller than they anticipated.
Click to expand...
I'm not a paid subscriber, so perhaps my presence means less. But I am a pair of eyeballs who saw the ads and (sometimes) was persuaded by them.

I haven't been on IC since they shut ZZLP down. I'll probably go back once basketball gets rolling, but I don't know that for sure. If the threads on here are good I might just read/post on here.

I think the IC people ought to know that, while they may be preserving their subscriber base, they're going to lose ad revenue.
 
Note: I know the moderatrion of liberals vs conservatives is the BIG question. I'll come back to it once everything else is covered.
 
UNCMSinLS said:
Is this a mea culpa, Snoop?:)
Click to expand...
Maybe a little.

I will say that I don't think we got every moderating decision right. Heck, as a mod team we didn't agree on every decision.

But I think we, as a bunch of volunteers, gave it our best shot and tried to balance things between competing parties as best we could.

But I won't deny that there might have been other ways to do things that might have been, if not more successful, at least differently successful.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top