Inauguration Day Catch-All | Trump, MAGA furious at bishop calling for compassion & mercy

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Good for Bishop Budde for speaking truth to power. If politicians want to attend services in a place of worship, even if they are doing so for political purposes, they need to be prepared to hear the teachings on which that place is founded, as uncomfortable as that may be for them.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
The Bishop asked for mercy for at-risk members of our country that were terrified. And Trump's reaction is to attack her on social media.

This man is devoid of all the things that make a human being human.
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And the attacks are coming from the whole of the MAGA community and right wing media. Trump is just spearheading the onslaught. A common talking point I've seen from MAGAs, even women, is that female bishops are all liberal lesbians and shouldn't be allowed to serve as leaders in the Church. Really repugnant stuff all because she implored kindness and mercy.
 
Wheels81 said:
Good for Bishop Budde for speaking truth to power. If politicians want to attend services in a place of worship, even if they are doing so for political purposes, they need to be prepared to hear the teachings on which that place is founded, as uncomfortable as that may be for them.
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Agreed 100%. I think it says a whole heck of a lot (and none of it good) about the poster- or two- on this board who claim to be Christians out of one side of their mouths while claiming that Donald Trump is somehow above hearing the words of Jesus Christ preached to him.
 
Callatoroy said:
Lol on a thread where trump is being attacked for his response to a clergy member calling for mercy and compassion, your deranged ass wished cancer on someone. You can’t make that up. You are to fucking stupid to see the irony of your hypocrisy, as are all the others because they have lost there damn minds due to TDS. That’s what you call WINNING for pubs.
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If "TDS" equates to being a morally sound and decent pro-America Christian who loves their neighbor regardless of race, religious beliefs or orientation, then I guess I have TDS. Happy now, sweetheart?
 


#PartyofChristianValues
#PartyofLawandOrder
#BacktheBlue

In all seriousness, while all of this is such an enormous shitshow, things like this are good as they ultimately further weakens the aura of invincibility that inexplicably envelopes Trump. We're not even 72 hours into 2.0 and the arrogance of Trump and his immediate advisors is causing problems in their coalition. In and of themselves and in a vacuum, these things aren't critically consequential, but as more continue to pile up in the coming days, weeks, and months- and they will, just wait a few hours!- they're going to cause significant problems for Trump 2.0 in ways that 1.0 did not have to concern itself with. I don't mean impeachment and conviction necessarily, but now that Trump is a lame duck, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of members of Congress who have their own political ambitions ahead of them that will far outlive Trump, he isn't as "safe" as might otherwise appear.
 
CFordUNC said:


#PartyofChristianValues
#PartyofLawandOrder
#BacktheBlue

In all seriousness, while all of this is such an enormous shitshow, things like this are good as they ultimately further weakens the aura of invincibility that inexplicably envelopes Trump. We're not even 72 hours into 2.0 and the arrogance of Trump and his immediate advisors is causing problems in their coalition. In and of themselves and in a vacuum, these things aren't critically consequential, but as more continue to pile up in the coming days, weeks, and months- and they will, just wait a few hours!- they're going to cause significant problems for Trump 2.0 in ways that 1.0 did not have to concern itself with. I don't mean impeachment and conviction necessarily, but now that Trump is a lame duck, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of members of Congress who have their own political ambitions ahead of them that will far outlive Trump, he isn't as "safe" as might otherwise appear.
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One can only hope. So far, the vast majority of Republican congresspersons have behaved like a flock of sheep.
 
CFordUNC said:


#PartyofChristianValues
#PartyofLawandOrder
#BacktheBlue

In all seriousness, while all of this is such an enormous shitshow, things like this are good as they ultimately further weakens the aura of invincibility that inexplicably envelopes Trump. We're not even 72 hours into 2.0 and the arrogance of Trump and his immediate advisors is causing problems in their coalition. In and of themselves and in a vacuum, these things aren't critically consequential, but as more continue to pile up in the coming days, weeks, and months- and they will, just wait a few hours!- they're going to cause significant problems for Trump 2.0 in ways that 1.0 did not have to concern itself with. I don't mean impeachment and conviction necessarily, but now that Trump is a lame duck, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of members of Congress who have their own political ambitions ahead of them that will far outlive Trump, he isn't as "safe" as might otherwise appear.
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I wish that that were the case but Trump remains a cult like figure that they won’t dare cross. He can still ruin their political careers. I don’t see that changing while he is alive.

And his torch could easily be passed to one of his children.

The only way that that is going to change is for his supporters to personally pay a significant price and turn on him. I believe that that will happen sometime in the next couple of years but it will take time for his screw ups to hit home.
 
CFordUNC said:
but now that Trump is a lame duck, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of members of Congress who have their own political ambitions ahead of them that will far outlive Trump, he isn't as "safe" as might otherwise appear.
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Trump doesn't have to be in office for his words to carry force. He was still influencing Pubs back in 21 and 22, when his future career looked tenuous. That's how we got Senate candidates Oz and Herschel.

So long as Trump can tweet something out and his MAGA cultists will follow blindly, the members of Congress should be afraid.

Now, should they be as afraid as they are? I don't think so. I think someone like Joni Ernst would cruise to reelection over any primary challenge. So it makes me wonder if Joni was swayed by the primary challenge, or if it just gave her cover to do what she had wanted to do anyway even though the man is a complete repudiation of everything she claims to have stood for.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
I wish that that were the case but Trump remains a cult like figure that they won’t dare cross. He can still ruin their political careers. I don’t see that changing while he is alive.

And his torch could easily be passed to one of his children.

The only way that that is going to change is for his supporters to personally pay a significant price and turn on him. I believe that that will happen sometime in the next couple of years but it will take time for his screw ups to hit home.
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Yeah. I am optimistic that if (and likely when) his EO insanity causes directly-attributable significant harm to the wallets and pocketbooks to many people in our country, Trump will face the kind of pressure and adversity he has not yet faced as POTUS. I'm not *hoping* for economic calamity by any means- I'd much prefer us to keep our roaring economy regardless of who is POTUS- but I believe that Trump's current and impending policy implementations will ultimately be his undoing. It won't make any difference to the MAGA base, and it won't happen quickly, but over the next year to year and a half or so between now and the midterms I think we are going to see that Trump outkicked his political coverage.
 
CFordUNC said:


#PartyofChristianValues
#PartyofLawandOrder
#BacktheBlue

In all seriousness, while all of this is such an enormous shitshow, things like this are good as they ultimately further weakens the aura of invincibility that inexplicably envelopes Trump. We're not even 72 hours into 2.0 and the arrogance of Trump and his immediate advisors is causing problems in their coalition. In and of themselves and in a vacuum, these things aren't critically consequential, but as more continue to pile up in the coming days, weeks, and months- and they will, just wait a few hours!- they're going to cause significant problems for Trump 2.0 in ways that 1.0 did not have to concern itself with. I don't mean impeachment and conviction necessarily, but now that Trump is a lame duck, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of members of Congress who have their own political ambitions ahead of them that will far outlive Trump, he isn't as "safe" as might otherwise appear.
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I don't know. You may be right. But I'm worried we are talking about this rather than Trump's actions that have real consequences. I'm worried this is this week's shiny, but ultimately inconsequential, object .
 
superrific said:
Trump doesn't have to be in office for his words to carry force. He was still influencing Pubs back in 21 and 22, when his future career looked tenuous. That's how we got Senate candidates Oz and Herschel.

So long as Trump can tweet something out and his MAGA cultists will follow blindly, the members of Congress should be afraid.

Now, should they be as afraid as they are? I don't think so. I think someone like Joni Ernst would cruise to reelection over any primary challenge. So it makes me wonder if Joni was swayed by the primary challenge, or if it just gave her cover to do what she had wanted to do anyway even though the man is a complete repudiation of everything she claims to have stood for.
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Dang. Good points, all. Shows how little I know- or perhaps how much hopium can oftentimes cloud my political projections! (Nobody should ever take my betting advice!)
 
CFordUNC said:


#PartyofChristianValues
#PartyofLawandOrder
#BacktheBlue

In all seriousness, while all of this is such an enormous shitshow, things like this are good as they ultimately further weakens the aura of invincibility that inexplicably envelopes Trump. We're not even 72 hours into 2.0 and the arrogance of Trump and his immediate advisors is causing problems in their coalition. In and of themselves and in a vacuum, these things aren't critically consequential, but as more continue to pile up in the coming days, weeks, and months- and they will, just wait a few hours!- they're going to cause significant problems for Trump 2.0 in ways that 1.0 did not have to concern itself with. I don't mean impeachment and conviction necessarily, but now that Trump is a lame duck, and there are hundreds upon hundreds of members of Congress who have their own political ambitions ahead of them that will far outlive Trump, he isn't as "safe" as might otherwise appear.
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How do you think public opinion is going to fall on this bishop's remarks?
 
Callatoroy said:
How do you think public opinion is going to fall on this bishop's remarks?
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The same public that is fully bought in on the Trump cult? The ones who daily forsake their own faith to make excuses for one of the most despicable public figures in American history?

You're curious about their reaction?
 
Callatoroy said:
How do you think public opinion is going to fall on this bishop's remarks?
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I suppose it will go something like this:

The 30% of people who are proud MAGAs and voted for Trump will think the Bishop is the second coming of Satan.

The 30% of people who are proud Democrats and voted against Trump will think that the Bishop did a wonderful job preaching the message of Jesus Christ.

Some portion of the ~20% who aren't really MAGAs and aren't really Democrats but voted for Trump because reasons may think "WTF is the matter with Trump? Seriously? Attacking a bishop for preaching Jesus's own words? Weird."

The remaining ~40% of people who couldn't be bothered to show and vote either way won't give a damn at all.
 
ChileG said:
What bunch of snowflakes
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They always have been. As usual with them, it's all about projection. They call Democrats snowflakes when in truth they are the ultimate snowflakes. What people like Trump really want is to be able to insult and trash-talk and threaten people all they want and then never get called out on it.
 
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