Iran Catch-All | US-Iran talks begin

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Crazy seeing the missiles in the sky and then seeing them get shot down. I'm sure the pieces of the missiles falling to the ground still cause damage and are dangerous.
 
It appears the attack is over for now and folks are given all clear to leave bomb shelters
 
There was also a terrorist mass shooting in Tel Aviv today.
 
I understand that there are valid criticisms of Israel, but in this very particular instance in which they are being directly attacked militarily on their own sovereign soil by a foreign adversary, do folks really believe that Israel (and to an extent the United States as one of her primary allies) doesn't have the right to respond in whatever manner they see fit? I can't imagine anyone would think that if the United States were under direct missile attack from a foreign adversary, that we shouldn't retaliate with the explicit purpose of significantly reducing or eliminating the enemy's ability or desire to conduct further attacks.
 
CFordUNC said:
I understand that there are valid criticisms of Israel, but in this very particular instance in which they are being directly attacked militarily on their own sovereign soil by a foreign adversary, do folks really believe that Israel (and to an extent the United States as one of her primary allies) doesn't have the right to respond in whatever manner they see fit? I can't imagine anyone would think that if the United States were under direct missile attack from a foreign adversary, that we shouldn't retaliate with the explicit purpose of significantly reducing or eliminating the enemy's ability or desire to conduct further attacks.
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Israel has bombed Lebanon, Syria, and Iran in the past few years. Do those countries have a right to defend themselves from a foreign adversary?
 
CFordUNC said:
I understand that there are valid criticisms of Israel, but in this very particular instance in which they are being directly attacked militarily on their own sovereign soil by a foreign adversary, do folks really believe that Israel (and to an extent the United States as one of her primary allies) doesn't have the right to respond in whatever manner they see fit? I can't imagine anyone would think that if the United States were under direct missile attack from a foreign adversary, that we shouldn't retaliate with the explicit purpose of significantly reducing or eliminating the enemy's ability or desire to conduct further attacks.
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That's an appropriate snapshot of the action. Now watch the full length feature and it gets a lot more complex.
 
finesse said:
That's an appropriate snapshot of the action. Now watch the full length feature and it gets a lot more complex.
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I hear ya. You're right, no question. I just mean that in this very specific instance, I'm not sure what folks expected Israel to do besides exactly what they are telling us they are going to do. That's all I meant. Was probably a poorly articulated and stupid thought on my part that didn't really add to the discussion.
 
roostra said:
I would be fine with this being some Kabuki theater that allows all sides to save some face and not escalate to full scale conflict.
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This is pretty much what I expect. They want to show they're angry so they lob some missiles, which they know have very little chance of doing anything, so they can say they did it. Unless something gets hit and there are more than a few casualties, it's just a show, in my opinion.
 
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