Iran Catch-All | IRAN WAR - US to BLOCKADE Strait

farce© · Sunday at 4:48 PM

superrific said:
Honestly I do not understand how these demands are supposed to work. Iran can say today, "no more money for Hamas." Then in a month we leave and they start funding Hamas again. It goes the other way too. Iran says, "you must guarantee us no more attacks." How? These are behavioral covenants being offered on people who have shown absolutely no interest in having their behavior constrained, and who would not find any of them legit even if they were carefully negoiated.

Iran should counter with the US stops funding Israel.

Bobfripp · Sunday at 4:55 PM

wmheel1287 said:
I was told just yesterday that "England" was going to help with the Strait.

Aye, Scots don't want to have anythin' to do with the wee Strait.

Austin Powers Get In My Belly GIF by Chris Cimino

Calheel · Sunday at 5:47 PM

lawtig02 said:
Sending US gas prices up toward $5/gallon right as Americans hit the road for summer travel, and seven months before a crucial midterm, is certainly a strategy for the GOP.

I long for $5 gas. Let me know where I can find some.

nycfan · Sunday at 5:47 PM

nycfan · Sunday at 5:51 PM

[I think they can disrupt it but not control it]

nycfan · Sunday at 5:52 PM

Bobfripp · Sunday at 5:57 PM

nycfan said:
[I think they can disrupt it but not control it]

That might be all it takes. If the Houthis sink any ship, insurance rates will skyrocket and ships won't want to try going through that strait.

nycfan · Sunday at 6:29 PM

lawtig02 · Sunday at 6:39 PM

nycfan said:

That would be great, but it’s unfathomable we’ve put Iran in a position where they get to decide how this will end.

nycfan · Sunday at 6:41 PM

. https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-ea...3?st=CJZukG&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

theel4life · Sunday at 7:20 PM

Trump is a pussy.

thebruinbleedstarheelblue · Sunday at 7:44 PM

ZenMode said:
Israeli settlers are arrested and charged all the time.

The establishment of Israel by Britain, after WWII, when Jews had nowhere to go and were being turned away at various shores around the world, including US shores. Are attacks against Israel justified for the simple fact that Israel exists?

Yes, for a variety of reasons the borders of Israel have expanded. I don't know enough about the details to comment, but I also find it hard to believe that the border of Israel plays any relevant role in the terrorism against Israel.

1) Israel does exist… ain’t got more support than most nations and being built. They need to work with their neighbors better and also their behavior assumes that they have big brother. They have had more help in putting things together and have a powerful military, they need to politically understand how to exist themselves… or at minimum act as ” big brother” would like them to. Does the Ukraine have the right to exist? They are at minimum of provocateur, even though the stated values of the nation are more aligned two hours…. Their behavior, especially recently has not been that way. World War II was a long time ago… they need to figure this out.

2) so you know about everything except for the things that don’t benefit your argument? Given the affirmation, how does it help peace in the Middle East for them to constantly be expanding? Settlers are arrest arrested sometimes, but they are also empowered and supported by the military very often…. And have support from the administration. The United States actually provides them cover for that… just by being big brother. There should be a zero tolerance approach to the settler crimes.

Do we support Israel with whatever they decide to do? How long as our commitment to supporting Israel and what do we get an exchange for that if we can’t fully control them… and they even spy on us.

thebruinbleedstarheelblue · Sunday at 7:49 PM

gtyellowjacket said:
Arrested, sometimes. Convicted rarely, which is why it keeps happening.

Key Statistics on Accountability

Low Conviction Rate: Analysis by the Israeli human rights organization Yesh Din shows that from 2005 to 2024, approximately 94% of investigation files into settler violence were closed without an indictment. Only 3% of investigations resulted in a conviction.

Trend in Complaints: In recent years, there has been a sharp increase in the percentage of victims who choose not to file complaints, citing distrust in Israeli authorities or fear of retaliation.

Investigations: Reports indicate that investigations into settler violence have significantly decreased since 2023.
יש דין +4

and there’s a little fact that all settlements are illegal under international court of justice. International courts are who decided to give Israel that land… they are playing both sides of this. This Israeli leadership are bad actors.

While considered illegal by the UN Security Council and the International Court of Justice (citing the Fourth Geneva Convention), Israel disputes this, arguing the territories are "disputed" rather than occupied.
Expansion Process: Often begins with unauthorized outposts which are later legalized and developed by the Israeli government.Months

heelslegup · Sunday at 9:15 PM

Per CBS, failed to agree on

Uranium

Strait of H

funding proxies

On the latter, lots of countries fundd Hamas. Israel helped birth Hamas and funded it for years Iran should say: We will stop funding proxies whhen Palestinians have an imp state

MMany ME countries incl Israel fund proxies in other countries.

05C40 · Sunday at 9:16 PM

So, Russia and China are replenishing Iran's war supplies. And St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago has been decreasing weapons shipments to Ukraine to make sure we have enough for Iran. How is that not a twofer for Vlad "the Ras" Putin? If both Russia and Israel both had Kompromat on St. Donald and were threatening to release it, how would St. Donald's behavior be any different in any material way?

gtyellowjacket · Sunday at 9:29 PM

05C40 said:
So, Russia and China are replenishing Iran's war supplies. And St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago has been decreasing weapons shipments to Ukraine to make sure we have enough for Iran. How is that not a twofer for Vlad "the Ras" Putin? If both Russia and Israel both had Kompromat on St. Donald and were threatening to release it, how would St. Donald's behavior be any different in any material way?

If Russia had something, I think meaningful sanctions on Russia would have been removed instead of escalated and weapon sales and donations would have been zero instead of billions per year, weapons that have killed lots of Russians and kept this war going.

Think of it this way. If Russia did have something that compromised Trump, would they say you need to reduce aid to Ukraine and we can handle more sanctions or would they say you need to end aid to Ukraine, eliminate all sanctions and then you need to start aiding us? Because the former is what has happened under Trump. This stuff is tin foil hat territory.

Duke Mu · Sunday at 9:32 PM

nycfan said:
[I think they can disrupt it but not control it]

Duke Mu · Sunday at 9:33 PM

gtyellowjacket said:
If Russia had something, I think meaningful sanctions on Russia would have been removed instead of escalated and weapon sales and donations would have been zero instead of billions per year, weapons that have killed lots of Russians and kept this war going.

Think of it this way. If Russia did have something that compromised Trump, would they say you need to reduce aid to Ukraine and we can handle more sanctions or would they say you need to end aid to Ukraine, eliminate all sanctions and then you need to start aiding us? Because the former is what has happened under Trump. This stuff is tin foil hat territory.

Trump has repeatedly removed sanctions on Putin and Russia. He's not putting them back.

Duke Mu · Sunday at 9:36 PM

Recent saction relief:

1. Temporary easing of oil sanctions
In March 2026, the Trump administration issued a 30-day waiver allowing countries to buy certain Russian oil.
This effectively relaxed enforcement of some oil sanctions to stabilize global energy markets.
There is reporting that the administration is considering extending this waiver, which critics say benefits Russia.

Jacking up oil futures suffices as another de facto sanction relief