Iran Catch-All | IRAN WAR

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ZenMode said:
Expanding war with Iran: A top Iranian official said Tehran “will not negotiate” with the US. Israel and Hezbollah are trading blows as the conflict widens, while explosions have been heard in Gulf cities including Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Doha. Here’s a look at the war in maps and charts.

The current "top Iranian official"
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I think you accidently posted a selfie,

here is the new leader

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nycfan said:
We are to blame for the targeting and the result of our own weapons. But Iran used a defense building for a school for girls in an active defense complex. Looks a lot like using those girls as human shields for a defense compound, not just a school on a military base, especially given how they oppress girls and women generally.
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Then that is abhorrent but letting things like this become shortcuts to clear speech is part of what got us here. It's just like the blurb I saw about the shooting the other day that said essentially, Quran found in cars. Links to terrorism suspected". Substitute Bible and imagine that. When code words lead to sloppy thinking and sloppy ideas, we're compounding our problems. Rant on pause.:oops:
 
lawtig02 said:
I knew the odds always favored a shitshow, but my small hope this could turn out well has been extinguished. I assumed we had a plan, at least for the short term, as we did with the action in Venezuela. It’s now clear we did not. The only explanation I can come up with is that Venezuela went about as well as it possibly could have. That caused Trump to think he could decree success with military operations, regardless of the differences in complexity and scope. We’re now seeing what happens when an idiot megalomaniac takes action that smart people have been avoiding, for good reason, for decades. God help us all.
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That is exactly what happened and exactly what I think most of us expected. I believe several people predicted that the Venezuela operation was going to lead to overconfidence by Trump.
 
nycfan said:
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So he admits that Iran's nuclear program had already been obliterated and therefore wasn't a threat, and it would have taken them many years, if ever, to rebuild somewhere else. So why the hell are we bombing them? Based on what is no doubt very dubious intel from Israel that they were going to attack somebody? Who? That we were going to kill their leaders to effect regime change? Boy, that's really working out well! Every time he opens his mouth he's just undermining the reasons his minions are giving for us bombing them. Idiocracy indeed.
 
nycfan said:
We are to blame for the targeting and the result of our own weapons. But Iran used a defense building for a school for girls in an active defense complex. Looks a lot like using those girls as human shields for a defense compound, not just a school on a military base, especially given how they oppress girls and women generally.
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This is what asymmetric warfare is all about. Why wouldn't they use human shields? I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying it's reality. It's essentially their missile defense system -- incredibly crude but not ineffective. This is one reason why aerial bombardment can't be appetizer, meal and dessert all at once. It puts the US in a position where we have to kill school girls because our bombs can't tell the difference.
 
superrific said:
This is what asymmetric warfare is all about. Why wouldn't they use human shields? I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying it's reality. It's essentially their missile defense system -- incredibly crude but not ineffective. This is one reason why aerial bombardment can't be appetizer, meal and dessert all at once. It puts the US in a position where we have to kill school girls because our bombs can't tell the difference.
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Don't you remember how pissed the British were then the patriots shot them from behind stone walls at Bunker (Breed's) Hill instead of standing up and trading musket volleys like civilized people? How dare they?
 
superrific said:
By the way, Ro Laren is a fan of Norwegian black metal. People who dress up like this, and sometimes even mean it:

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If he says you've gone too far -- keep in mind, this is a scene in which a band once put a photo of the post-suicidal body of their singer on their album cover, and whose other member was murdered by the bassist for a different band -- then probably you should listen.
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unless this ro laren poster is a new iteration of some past poster, they've been on the board for about 17 seconds and lack the context and seniority to make declarations about what is "too far."

someone else made this same point earlier itt. a bit presumptuous for brand new posters to be hopping in and lecturing people who have years of posting history.
 
Over half of the Iranian population is non-Persian. I wonder about the borders as the security apparatus is degraded, particularly the Arabs and the Azeri.
 
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