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finesse said:
Now, get out of the Jewish book and go to the Gospels. Those are the words and deeds of Jesus Christ, something Christians might well pay more attention to.
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There's an historical argument to be made that Jesus expected the divine hand of retribution to be leveled at the Romans any day now, and that would lead to the deliverance of the Jews.
 
Callatoroy said:
You guys love getting your political thoughts from celebrities
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  1. Ronald Reagan – Hollywood actor → 40th U.S. President; Governor of California.
  2. Arnold Schwarzenegger – Bodybuilder & movie star → Governor of California (2003–2011).
  3. Fred Thompson – Actor (notably Law & Order) → U.S. Senator from Tennessee (1994–2003).
  4. George Murphy – Film actor and dancer → U.S. Senator from California (1965–1971).
  5. Fred Grandy – Actor (The Love Boat) → U.S. Representative from Iowa (1987–1995).
  6. Sonny Bono – Pop musician (Sonny & Cher) → U.S. Representative from California (1995–1998).
  7. Jack Kemp – NFL quarterback → U.S. Representative from New York; 1996 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee.
  8. Steve Largent – NFL wide receiver → U.S. Representative from Oklahoma (1994–2002).
  9. Jim Bunning – Major League Baseball Hall-of-Fame pitcher → U.S. Senator from Kentucky (1999–2011).
  10. Tommy Tuberville – College football coach → U.S. Senator from Alabama (2021–present).
  11. Donald Trump – Real-estate developer and reality TV personality (The Apprentice) → 45th U.S. President.
  12. Dr. Mehmet Oz – Television doctor (The Dr. Oz Show) → Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania (2022).
  13. Herschel Walker – Heisman-winning football star → Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Georgia (2022).
 
Callatoroy said:
You guys are showing a tremendous amount of ignorance about the ME with your “let Israel go it alone” comments. All common sense neutered due to trump hatred. Probably;y going to blame trump for the terrorist threats we will have to deal with due to Biden / Harris open border years. How much of the billions Biden unfroze and gave back to Iran do you think is left for them to fund sleeper cell terrorists acts?
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Has it never occurred to you that maybe you're the one whose positions are nonsensical due to hatred? Not hatred of Trump, but irrational love of Trump based on his hatred of the same people you hate?

I mean, you're sitting here claiming that it's "common sense" to launch an expensive and risky bombardment campaign without any actual express objective because of an implausible prediction about Iran. More than that, you're saying it's stupid not to.

This reminds me of the Simpsons episode when Bart turns himself into a fly.
 
zeuxis said:
Interesting back story to that.
www.theguardian.com

The toppling of Saddam’s statue: how the US military made a myth

The long read: In 2003, the destruction of one particular statue in Baghdad made worldwide headlines and came to be a symbol of western victory in Iraq. But there was so much more to it – or rather, so much less
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tldr: Not clear if the idea came from an Iraqi or a US soldier, but the soldier didn't want to be the one to do the job. There were so few Iraqi's present that they couldn't get the statue to budge. When they were ready to go home, the soldier contacted his superiors, got press involved, and got permission to use US equipment to bring down the statue.
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I knew this and everyone should have suspected it as soon as Zen touted it. He's the walking anti-truth serum.

Not that this is something new. The photo of the flag raising at Iwo Jima that is so famous is not the original and was staged for effect.
 
CRHeel94 said:
Have you guys read about this? Doesn't sound very honorable.

apnews.com

Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

Officials in New Delhi say that an Iranian warship that was sunk by a U.S. submarine near Sri Lanka had participated in naval exercises hosted by India before heading out into international waters in the Indian Ocean on its way home.
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I also don't see how it's legal. We haven't declared war on Iran. How can it possibly be legal for us to be blowing up their ships that are far away from the conflict zone, have not attacked us, and do not have a realistic chance of participating in the conflict in their current state? I'm no expert on war crimes but this attack sure seems to have all the hallmarks of one to me.
 
sringwal said:
  1. Ronald Reagan – Hollywood actor → 40th U.S. President; Governor of California.
  2. Arnold Schwarzenegger – Bodybuilder & movie star → Governor of California (2003–2011).
  3. Fred Thompson – Actor (notably Law & Order) → U.S. Senator from Tennessee (1994–2003).
  4. George Murphy – Film actor and dancer → U.S. Senator from California (1965–1971).
  5. Fred Grandy – Actor (The Love Boat) → U.S. Representative from Iowa (1987–1995).
  6. Sonny Bono – Pop musician (Sonny & Cher) → U.S. Representative from California (1995–1998).
  7. Jack Kemp – NFL quarterback → U.S. Representative from New York; 1996 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee.
  8. Steve Largent – NFL wide receiver → U.S. Representative from Oklahoma (1994–2002).
  9. Jim Bunning – Major League Baseball Hall-of-Fame pitcher → U.S. Senator from Kentucky (1999–2011).
  10. Tommy Tuberville – College football coach → U.S. Senator from Alabama (2021–present).
  11. Donald Trump – Real-estate developer and reality TV personality (The Apprentice) → 45th U.S. President.
  12. Dr. Mehmet Oz – Television doctor (The Dr. Oz Show) → Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania (2022).
  13. Herschel Walker – Heisman-winning football star → Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Georgia (2022).
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Yeah, I knew that one wasn't going to go well for calla. What an unimaginable imbecile.
 
lawtig02 said:
I also don't see how it's legal. We haven't declared war on Iran. How can it possibly be legal for us to be blowing up their ships that are far away from the conflict zone, have not attacked us, and do not have a realistic chance of participating in the conflict in their current state? I'm no expert on war crimes but this attack sure seems to have all the hallmarks of one to me.
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Yep. Not only that, but the vessel had specifically been disarmed of all munitions as requirement for participating in the fleet review jubilee in India from which it was sailing home.
 
nycfan said:
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This is a case in point, calla. How can we possibly believe any of this is about a national security concern over Iran's nuclear program when Trump is saying things like this? It will NEVER be a valid exercise of American military power to kill another country's leadership and thousands of its civilians just because we would prefer different leadership. And yet, that's the best explanation we've received for what we're doing.
 
finesse said:
I knew this and everyone should have suspected it as soon as Zen touted it. He's the walking anti-truth serum.

Not that this is something new. The photo of the flag raising at Iwo Jima that is so famous is not the original and was staged for effect.
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I said nothing about the statue of Saddam.

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