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I'm not the one that is bad faith arguing. My question was who is likely to have done, or repeat, what happened with the girls school. What happened with the girls school is not what Israel did one time over the last 2.5 years. I can't help that you are being dishonest.

As the events in Gaza have shown, it is absolutely the Muslim extremists who are more than happy to sacrifice civilian lives.
You are always the one who is bad faith arguing. Who do you think is responsible for the school? Have you staked out a position yourself or have you simply demanded that others do so?

Not who is more likely in a vacuum. Who do you believe is responsible for this school?
 
You are always the one who is bad faith arguing. Who do you think is responsible for the school?
My question was about which side is more likely to intentionally bomb/destroy a school full of only students/civilians.
Have you staked out a position yourself or have you simply demanded that others do so?
The original claim was that we, the United States, are the evil ones. If we bombed a school, there is a 99.999% chance that it was accidental. If either side intentionally bombed a school, it would be the side that has proven, for decades, that they not only don't care about civilian lives, but don't care about the lives of children.
Not who is more likely in a vacuum. Who do you believe is responsible for this school?
I think it's likely an accident by the US, which wouldn't make us evil.
 
My question was about which side is more likely to intentionally bomb/destroy a school full of only students/civilians.

The original claim was that we, the United States, are the evil ones. If we bombed a school, there is a 99.999% chance that it was accidental. If either side intentionally bombed a school, it would be the side that has proven, for decades, that they not only don't care about civilian lives, but don't care about the lives of children.

I think it's likely an accident by the US, which wouldn't make us evil.
Sufficiently advanced indifference is indistinguishable from malice.

Sufficiently advanced bad faith argument is indistinguishable from stupidity.
 
Israel has certainly intentionally dropped bombs that they knew would cause large numbers of civilian casualties because they believed they would hit a military target that justified those casualties.
I bet there wasn't a single, individual bombing atrack, by Israel, knowing that civilians were present, that resulted in even half of the deaths of the Iran school.

Edit: referring to Gaza.
 


Wondering whether there should be an Iran war casualties thread — I worry it could turn sour too fast, but I would mean it to be a place to share stories about US and other casualties and the real people being injured or killed so they don’t get swallowed up in the general conversation. But would t want it to turn into another debate about the war itself, more a place to track the human cost and remember the humanity of the dead and injured. .
 
My question was about which side is more likely to intentionally bomb/destroy a school full of only students/civilians.

The original claim was that we, the United States, are the evil ones. If we bombed a school, there is a 99.999% chance that it was accidental. If either side intentionally bombed a school, it would be the side that has proven, for decades, that they not only don't care about civilian lives, but don't care about the lives of children.

I think it's likely an accident by the US, which wouldn't make us evil.
Would blaming the accidental bombing on Iran and painting them as murdering their own innocent children qualify as evil for you?
 
I bet there wasn't a single, individual bombing atrack, by Israel, knowing that civilians were present, that resulted in even half of the deaths of the Iran school.

Edit: referring to Gaza.
Ok. How exactly does that matter to the discussion of whether it is more likely that Israel, Iran, or the US would have intentionally bombed the school, with the understanding that the most likely explanation is that it was hit accidentally?
 
And that side would be Israel.
Hypothetically speaking, let's say that Israel and Gaza get into another war. This time, they are militarily equal. Same weapons, bombs, tanks, aircraft, etc. And let's say that Israel decides to use civilians as human shields against Hamas.

How do you think that would play out when compared to the previous Gaza / Israel war where a total of ~ 75k Gazans were killed?
 
Hypothetically speaking, let's say that Israel and Gaza get into another war. This time, they are militarily equal. Same weapons, bombs, tanks, aircraft, etc. And let's say that Israel decides to use civilians as human shields against Hamas.

How do you think that would play out when compared to the previous Gaza / Israel war where a total of ~ 75k Gazans were killed?
“What if I invent a counterfactual with no basis in reality” is usually the argument people go to when they would rather not address the actual facts.
 
Hypothetically speaking, let's say that Israel and Gaza get into another war. This time, they are militarily equal. Same weapons, bombs, tanks, aircraft, etc. And let's say that Israel decides to use civilians as human shields against Hamas.

How do you think that would play out when compared to the previous Gaza / Israel war where a total of ~ 75k Gazans were killed?
Come on, Zen. This is so stupid. In that absurd hypothetical, both sides would be no holds barred. The death count on each side would be much higher than 75k. Nobody would hesitate to kill civilians. Israel would probably kill more people because they have far more experience with military tactics and operations than the Palestinians, but the hypothetical is dumb on its face. It has nothing to do with the current situation, in which Israel and the US have the virtually unfettered ability to drop as many bombs as they want in Iran.
 
Would some of you fucks go read about the My Lai massacre and find out what Americans are willing to do to people who don't look like us. Then take the next step and stfu about the ""99.99% or whatever" chance that we wouldn't do such a thing intentionally.
 
There was no starvation campaign. There was the reality that up to 90% of food aid was being hijacked by the terrorists because, again, they don't care about civilian life
Literally every independent expert disagrees with you. there's a reason why the ICC issued warrants for the arrest of Bibi and Israeli cabinet members. It was intentional; it was absolutely an Israeli action; and it's grotesque to argue about this. Keep in mind how many aid convoys Israel destroyed. That wasn't Hamas.
 
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