Iran Catch-All | Protester Massacre? CBS reports 12,000+ killed

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The sooner we can move away from fossil fuels to renewable energy, the sooner we can banish the turd that is the Middle East to the dustbin.
All the more reason to push forward with moving to electric cars, among other things. But of course under Dear Leader we're moving backwards in that area, thus ensuring that we'll continue to remain hostage to the whims and endless feuds of various Middle Eastern powers.
 
All the more reason to push forward with moving to electric cars, among other things. But of course under Dear Leader we're moving backwards in that area, thus ensuring that we'll continue to remain hostage to the whims and endless feuds of various Middle Eastern powers.
I suspect that the MAGAs want us to remain embroiled in the Middle East - that, and they don't give a shit about the environment or global warming.
 
So Iran has voted to move to block the Strait of Hormuz for the first time ever, apparently. Whether they are capable of doing so or not, it would appear that there are already consequences to our bombing of Iran. Would they have chosen to do this (or try to) if we didn't bomb them? Likely not.
 
So Iran has voted to move to block the Strait of Hormuz for the first time ever, apparently. Whether they are capable of doing so or not, it would appear that there are already consequences to our bombing of Iran. Would they have chosen to do this (or try to) if we didn't bomb them? Likely not.
The body that voted doesn’t have the authority to make that decision
 
If Iran has truly decided to close the Strait of Hormuz, and is serious about enforcing it, this will lead to a call for regime change, no matter what the administration currently states.

And perhaps this was the goal all along? Because they suspected Iran would respond as such.

I don't know, obviously.

But this isn't going to just end here.

As with practically everything Trump does: make a dumb decision, fuck things up, then take it back and claim victory when disaster somehow doesn't occur.

We had an agreement with Iran that he "nuked" during his first administration.

None of this would probably be happening had he not done that.
 
If Iran has truly decided to close the Strait of Hormuz, and is serious about enforcing it, this will lead to a call for regime change, no matter what the administration currently states.

And perhaps this was the goal all along? Because they suspected Iran would respond as such.

I don't know, obviously.

But this isn't going to just end here.

As with practically everything Trump does: make a dumb decision, fuck things up, then take it back and claim victory when disaster somehow doesn't occur.

We had an agreement with Iran that he "nuked" during his first administration.

None of this would probably be happening had he not done that.
Regime change has been Israel’s goal from the start. It was never about the nuclear capabilities. Just like Gaza was never about the hostages.
 
Regime change has been Israel’s goal from the start. It was never about the nuclear capabilities. Just like Gaza was never about the hostages.
This is false. It has always been about the nuclear capabilities, which represent an existential threat to Israel's existence. Regime change would just be an added benefit for the Israelis.
 
Regime change has been Israel’s goal from the start. It was never about the nuclear capabilities. Just like Gaza was never about the hostages.
I try not to be too conspiratorial, despite the appeal it has for us all. But I think there's a more than probable chance that this was the goal for Israel all along.

What I mean is that, while American media has been mostly hush-hush about it (because you can't be "anti-Semitic"), we know for a fact that Israel knew Hamas was plotting the Oct. 7th event. Maybe they didn't know exactly what date, but they knew.

Given the capabilities the IDF and Mossad have demonstrated with taking out Hezbollah and Iranian leadership (I saw the 60 Minutes episode couple weeks ago, where two Israeli IDF figures, who were almost certainly approved by Israeli leadership to appear there, said the Hezbollah beeper and walkie-talkie thing was a 10 year operation), there's no way they did not know Hamas was going to attack.

They allowed it to happen. The people killed in the process and the hostages be damned.

I think they allowed it to happen precisely for this moment.
 
So nice to have Dr. Lynch back in the house. Now we have a definitive answer to EVERYTHING!
A sign of bad-faith arguing is conspiratorially believing that everyone who disagrees with you is somehow the same poster. That, combined with your intentional misreading or disregarding of articles that other posters have provided to us is your second strike here. Truly a horrible outing for you today, and I expected better. That's my bad.
 

"What have the Americans accomplished with their nighttime strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran?" Medvedev questioned in a post on social media. "The enrichment of nuclear material -- and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons -- will continue. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads."
 
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